The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Wounded Knee Massacre - 1890 - Mar. 13th, 2003

http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/acs/1890s/woundedknee/WKmscr.html ^ | Lorie Liggett

[SAMWolf]

I can't put myself in the mindset of the times, but wrong is wrong no matter what the time period.

[Jen]

FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole!

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[the_doc]

Ditto that.

I am pleased to notice that 29 American Indians have been MOH recipients over time. I agree with the article that it is a travesty to list them with the 20 MOH recipients from the "Battle" of Wounded Knee.

[Darksheare]

True.
Can't imagine the mentality of the times, or how it could come about like that.
But it happened, and it's a disgusting mess.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

To this day, one of the most heart-rending books I have ever read is "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee."

The stories on those pages will stay with me forever.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[NativeSon]

I am not one who "wishes for old ways" but as I sit here reading this at work (lunch break) I find that I cannot read further. To think about this too long for even a minute brings me to ruin.

I cannot understand what could posses people to do such things. I am not Lakota but the Dine' were also at war with the U.S. government and we share a common history in such things. Evil was in the hearts of these men.

I do not dwell on the past but look to the future. I use what I have learned from the past to ensure that the future does not witness these things. As a proud American I will be ever vigilant agianst these forces of darkness.

[SAMWolf]

Morning Jen.

[Protagoras]

Great post as usual Sam. Thanks

[GailA]

Afternoon all, Today's graphic

[SAMWolf]

I'm a very firm believer in George Santayana's statement

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

I also believe it should be expanded to read:

"Those who do not remember--or understand--the past are doomed to repeat it."

Those who revise their history are doomed to repeat it

I can understand somewhat what you're feeling, I was born a German and reading about the Death Camps does the same to me. I could never in a million years understand how people could let that happen.

[SAMWolf]

Reading about the Cherokee "Trail of Tears" is a heart breaker too.

[SAMWolf]

Your welcome, Protagoras

[SAMWolf]

Excellent graphic GailA.

[NativeSon]

"Those who do not remember--or understand--the past are doomed to repeat it."

Those who revise their history are doomed to repeat it

I agree. I do not agree when it come to digging up those that have gone before but in cases like this the history is available.

All should remember that this nation was born of dreams and tears. We must all acknowledge the bone, flesh and blood that we stand upon. What built this Great Nation of Ours must never be forgotten, never be twisted. To turn from this is to allow our enemies to rip us apart. America is Free and that Freedom must forever be paid for.

[Crowcreek]

You should be proud of your heritage, as I am of mine. Human weakness, and cruelty was present in members of both cultures.

What many fail to comprehend is that the North American tribes had been decimated by European disease before many whites had even arrived. Entire villages perished, and in many cases it happened so fast they did not even have time to take care of their dead.

This was an important factor in the adoption of Christianity by the surviving Indians. They attributed the wealth and prosperity of the white man to the 'medicine' of the white man's religion, and in desperation, many adopted it.

It was desperation that later led them to reject it, and turn to the Ghost Dancers, whose ceremonies sought to revive the 'lost' Spirits, and prosperity of the past. They had come to the conclusion that Christianity was not as strong a force for them as it was for the newcomers.

I tend to forgivness when it comes to the crimes the Natives and Whites inflicted on each other. In a larger sense, they had enemies in common -- such as diptheria and smallpox. My Mom and her brother were the only two kids out of seven who lived past the age of 14, in a homesteader's house outside of Cheyenne.

[Antoninus]

Truly a sad chapter in our nation's history. On the plus side, there are likely now more people of American Indian heritage alive in North America than when the Europeans arrived.

"Singuap hockin hatta."
(Old Lenape expression. Translation: "be quiet, the earth has them; they are dead")

The Interactive ALR: A Searchable Database of Historic Native American Vocabularies

[joyce11111]

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