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To: Polycarp
Some friends of ours sent their oldest to Fairfield in CT. They now tell everyone they know NOT to send their kids to Catholic colleges unless they want them to lose their faith. Their son refuses to even go to Mass with them anymore. I have another friend who attended St. Bonaventure (ironically at the same time as the couple mentioned above) She took a major in Theology, but in the process totally lost her Catholic Faith, and that was 30 years ago!!

This has been going on for quite a while. We didn't even consider Catholic colleges when our older two went. The oldest attended UMass-Amherst because he got a 4 yr. scholarship. The other attends Carnegie Mellon because he considered it the best place for his major, which is Computer Science.

We have 2 more coming up. Our daughter has expressed interest in Ave Maria; we became Founders last year. Our youngest son will need an engineering program. Unfortunately, I don't think any of the good Catholic Schools have one; they seem to be mostly Liberal Arts.

3 posted on 02/04/2003 2:44:12 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I think the University of Portland in Oregon has an excellent engineering program. Also fantastic science program. One of my daughter graduated from there.
6 posted on 02/04/2003 3:06:00 PM PST by Salvation (+With God all things are possible.+)
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To: SuziQ
Congratulations on some very talented kids. A boy at my son's high school applied early decision to Amherst and he was turned down! Had a perfect 1600, sports, high gpa, and extracurrilculars. Tough school. V's wife.
7 posted on 02/04/2003 3:20:03 PM PST by ventana
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To: SuziQ
Some friends of ours sent their oldest to Fairfield in CT. They now tell everyone they know NOT to send their kids to Catholic colleges unless they want them to lose their faith.

Absolutely true. True story from Boston College:

When I arrived there in 1989, one of the first people I met was a very nice young lady from Florida. She was a Theology major and we were in some of the same classes so we became somewhat friendly. As the years went by, I lost track of her. I happened to see her toward the end of our senior year, and we had a little chat. I found out that she was now a "practicing" pagan (worshing Venus, I think) and an out-and-about lesbian.

I always wondered what exactly they taught her in her theology classes....
10 posted on 02/04/2003 7:43:51 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: SuziQ
Some friends of ours sent their oldest to Fairfield in CT. They now tell everyone they know NOT to send their kids to Catholic colleges unless they want them to lose their faith. Their son refuses to even go to Mass with them anymore. I have another friend who attended St. Bonaventure (ironically at the same time as the couple mentioned above) She took a major in Theology, but in the process totally lost her Catholic Faith, and that was 30 years ago!!

I was about to post when your post caught my eye!! I graduated from St. Bonas a generation ago. I would not recommend it. Most of my Catholic friends (from college) aren't Catholic anymore, or if they are, it's only in a women-goddess-priest kind of way. Ugh. I found my faith seriously tested as well.

Because of the relatively short distance from where I now live (PA), many of our local Catholic school teachers go there for 'further' education. And come back devoid of their previous fervent faith. My son's (former) high school math teacher is a perfect example. He left the school abruptly in the first semester, leaving stunned math students. He was exceptionally good at teaching math. A double loss. Also, the former priest-teacher at his school left teaching and the priesthood in one fell swoop.

And not to pick on just Bonas, what is it with Catholic colleges? Totally hijacked, it would seem, by the same leftist agenda that characterizes so many institutions of higher education. I knew Bonas was in trouble when they 'let go' many tenured male profs, some very good ones in their prime, about a decade ago to adhere to 'fair hiring' practices. No longer judged by ability, just ability to fill a quota.

My post was originally going to be about my own experience in my freshman year. My very first 'theology' class started thusly: The professor announced to a packed room (mandatory class, about 40 of us) that he was going to challenge us to expand our horizons and teach us 'new' findings in Catholicism, things that would 'fly in the face' of what we learned as mere children. Hence the smear, now that we were 'grown up' we would see his point, right? - otherwise we would appear to all the class and him to be childish or unreasonable. In this first class, he told us how Jesus sinned and had a 'close relationship' (read: affair) with Mary Magdalene and had brothers and sisters. And, most importantly, how Jesus came not for some nicey salvation thing but to establish social justice here on earth. Gag.

Then he asked who found that hard to accept or disagreed. Four of us raised our hands. Granted, some just didn't care, but only 4. We were told disagreeing with him was not allowed and would prevent us from getting an A or even a B in the class. We were warned not to complain, all the profs taught this way and he would find out. He asked us if we still disagreed and we raised our hands. One guy argued with him. He told us we were a hindrance to the learning of the class. The guy who argued left, the other 3 of us stayed, of which I am not proud. I should have left. But you can see how he took advantage of new college freshmen, many away from home for the first time (at least to this extent) and we wanted to respect his authority. Oh well.

Sorry so long. I could go on. It only went down hill from there.

32 posted on 12/15/2003 7:23:54 AM PST by fortunecookie
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