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To: fortheDeclaration
How should we understand the New Testament's statements about election and predestination?

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Election and predestination can be traced to St. Francis, who derived it from the works of St. Paul, who did not know Christ.

4 posted on 01/18/2003 12:42:43 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
What? I would say Christ believed predestination when he said YOU DID NOT CHOOSE ME, BUT I CHOSE YOU.
28 posted on 01/19/2003 6:01:39 PM PST by rwfromkansas (www.fairtax.org: It is time for a FAIRTAX!)
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To: yankeedame; rwfromkansas
And do not forget "We love Him because He loved us first":>)
33 posted on 01/20/2003 8:36:30 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: yankeedame; fortheDeclaration; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian
You wrote: Election and predestination can be traced to St. Francis,

??????

First I heard this one.

34 posted on 01/20/2003 8:40:18 AM PST by xzins (Don't go on what he writes.....go on what you "feel" he means)
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