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The word "occult" means hidden, not "cult." Having the teachings in the open doesn't mean a group can not be a cult.

Thanks. What else qualifies? One man authoritarian rule?

BTW, I believe the sabbath is Saturday not Sunday. We worship on the Lord's Day, the day of His resurrection - the first day of the week.

Thanks. Would you say that you do this due to Christian tradition? If not, can you show me where it says to honor Christ's resurrection by worshipping on Sunday?

Also, I assume that you acknowledge that Armstongs beliefs in all three of these points were correct?:

Three doctrines were instrumental in Armstrong's conversion: 1) That God is the Creator, 2) That the Bible is true, and 3) That the Bible does not change the Sabbath to Sunday.

Also from the article:

Armstrong was eager to obey God, and he saw in Scripture that God commanded his people to keep the seventh day as a Sabbath. Although most Christians do not keep the seventh day, no one was able to prove to Armstrong that God ever authorized his people to change or ignore this commandment.

Can you prove from scripture, not tradition, that Armstrong was wrong about the above?

***What else qualifies? One man authoritarian rule?***

The marks of a cult vary widely depending on who's making the list. The term IMHO is subjective.

**If not, can you show me where it says to honor Christ's resurrection by worshipping on Sunday?***

Acts 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Armstrong is correct on these three points but that doesn't make him right elsewhere. I do not assume that the Church is the New Israel. Your question is better addressed to the amils. We dispensationalists do not equate Sunday with the Sabbath or Israel with the Church.

Armstrong was eager to obey God, and he saw in Scripture that God commanded his people to keep the seventh day as a Sabbath. Although most Christians do not keep the seventh day, no one was able to prove to Armstrong that God ever authorized his people to change or ignore this commandment.

Can you prove from scripture, not tradition, that Armstrong was wrong about the above?

No one could have ever proven anything to Armstrong, so there should be no surprise there.

Herbert couldn't be proven wrong when it came to divorced people being allowed to remarry as long as their first spouse was still alive either.

That was until he fell for his 46 year old divorced secretary, when he was 86 him self, then he began studying the Bible and lo and behold, he found he was aloud to marry her after all.

All this, while my mother and step father had to separate even though they had been married for over 12 years at the time, and had two boys, and the oldest boy was the one I posted about on this thread #10.

Several local marriages were broken up from that belief until the shoe was on Herbert’s foot, then the scripture became flexible.

The original WWCG has apologized for all the harm they caused, even though they no longer teach the doctrine of separatist you belong to, and yours still tries to divide God's people into camps as they always have.

So were to believe that God has worked for 6 thousand years to save only your little group of a couple of thousand people that are to teach and rule the billions he will call later, am I right about your belief on that?

JH

Armstrong was eager to obey God, and he saw in Scripture that God commanded his people to keep the seventh day as a Sabbath. Although most Christians do not keep the seventh day, no one was able to prove to Armstrong that God ever authorized his people to change or ignore this commandment.

Can you prove from scripture, not tradition, that Armstrong was wrong about the above?

And can you prove that God ever intended for the Gentiles to keep the Sabbath?

The New Covenant changed everything, the whole Jewish belief was left for them to carry on, but the Gentiles were given a whole new plan of salvation and freedom that Israel never had.

The Jews were to keep the covenant God made with them and Moses, we Christians are to keep the New Covenant that was made at the Last Supper, and which Paul revealed to us during his ministry.

Paul and all the Apostles agreed that all the Gentiles were to be given at that present time was as stated in Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

I realize you're developing a spin on this scripture, but its only your conjecture, and not solid scripture as I have quoted.

The Sabbath was never kept by any man until God gave it to Israel at Sinai, and the Jews still keep it today, but we Christians were never given the Sabbath.

JH