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To: Catholicguy
One magisterium condemns modernism and lists a Syllabus of Errors, this one nullifies the Syllabus and embraces modernism. One magisterium condemns the Lutheran position on Justification, this one embraces the Lutheran understanding. One Magisterium defines the Catholic Church as being the Church of Christ, this one speaks of the Church of Christ as merely subsisting in the Catholic Church. How can it be that this magisterium can deny other magisteria and its own tradition, all the while claiming to be traditional? Conservatives would respond that it is up to the Pope alone to decide what's traditional. This cannot be a Catholic answer. The Pope can't invent an apostolic tradition--he can only pass it on. This is why Vatican I made the point that while the Pope was infallible when speaking ex cathedra, he was conditioned by the nature of his office. He was not an absolute monarch, but bound to transmit only the deposit of faith he had received. Cardinal Ratzinger many times has made this very point: "The Pope is not an absolute monarch, but must, like all the faithful, obey the transmitted Word and Tradition." The Pope can no more create a new tradition than he can create a new Sacred Scripture. Yet there are Catholics who do not understand this and ascribe to the Pope miraculous powers he does not possess. Many worship the Pope and place him ahead of the true Faith.


225 posted on 07/26/2002 6:51:53 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
One magisterium condemns modernism and lists a Syllabus of Errors, this one nullifies the Syllabus and embraces modernism. One magisterium condemns the Lutheran position on Justification, this one embraces the Lutheran understanding. One Magisterium defines the Catholic Church as being the Church of Christ, this one speaks of the Church of Christ as merely subsisting in the Catholic Church. How can it be that this magisterium can deny other magisteria and its own tradition, all the while claiming to be traditional? Conservatives would respond that it is up to the Pope alone to decide what's traditional. This cannot be a Catholic answer. The Pope can't invent an apostolic tradition--he can only pass it on. This is why Vatican I made the point that while the Pope was infallible when speaking ex cathedra, he was conditioned by the nature of his office. He was not an absolute monarch, but bound to transmit only the deposit of faith he had received. Cardinal Ratzinger many times has made this very point: "The Pope is not an absolute monarch, but must, like all the faithful, obey the transmitted Word and Tradition." The Pope can no more create a new tradition than he can create a new Sacred Scripture. Yet there are Catholics who do not understand this and ascribe to the Pope miraculous powers he does not possess. Many worship the Pope and place him ahead of the true Faith.

You have obviously lost the faith. My condolences....

I am not wasting another second with one who believes the magisterium contradicts itself. Jesus established the Catholic Church as the Pillar of Truth, sent the Holy Spirit upon it to teach it all truth and, via Infallibility, the Magisterium is incapable of teaching error.

Stop relying on your own intellect as it is not serving you well

229 posted on 07/26/2002 6:59:28 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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