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To: mconder
If we suppose evolution is fact and God does not exsist, the only thing that really made what Hitler did wrong would be the people that took exception to it because it threatened their continued exsistance.

In fact the existance or lack of God did not prevent Hitler. So the only question we have to answer is by what right we resisted Hitler. Since self-preservation is inherent in existance, we knew everything we needed to know about Hitler without refering to scripture.

Scripture was redundant to our natural impulses at self-defense. Scripture didn't prevent Hitler and it didn't give us answers about how to deal with him that we couldn't arrive at independently.

So what was your point?

220 posted on 06/17/2002 8:38:27 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
My point? By your logic, it seems that you would choose survival if it meant you had to eat your own kids. I am sure you would have been one of Stalin's useful idiots if it meant your continued exsistence. The fact is that some humans are capable of recognizing a higher law than that which dictates physical compulsion to preserve ones self. The real truth is something has either been done to you or you have done to yourself, that prevents you from realizing your spiritual self. Unfortunately, people as hardened as you usually never transcend physical exsistence and are reduced to a state no much better than the animals. Why don't you do yourself a favor and find out what it is that prevents you from aquiring faith and feeling The Spirit of GOD. No doubt you have been hurt on some fundamental level that prevents you from feeling. All it would take is a desire to believe, humility, and prayer for you to find an answer. Experiment upon the word of God. Do the things He has suggested to aquire knowledge of his exsistence and you will have your answer. I am at a level where I have faith in God, I know many people who KNOW God exsists more than in physical evidence could have helped them. Belief that God does not exsist requires the same, although opposing, faith that God does exsist. Since you seem to be so capable of faith in His non-exsistence, perhaps you could allow yourself at least a desire to know if he does exsist. Not even a scientist proves or disproves something without at least a desire to do so.
241 posted on 06/17/2002 8:59:59 AM PDT by mconder
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To: jlogajan
Since self-preservation is inherent in existance, we knew everything we needed to know about Hitler without refering to scripture.

Most moral codes (especially the Christian one) have much that does not pertain to self-preservation. In fact, Christianity teaches us to love our enemies. That idea is certainly NOT consonant with self-preservation (or with evolution, either).

621 posted on 06/17/2002 2:33:39 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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