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"3,5,7,9 - There's No Such Thing As Palestine..."
Israeli Day Parade ^ | 5/5/02 | self

Posted on 05/05/2002 9:51:37 PM PDT by rpage3

"2,4,6,8 - Israel is the Jewish State..."

Waiting to cross 5th Avenue today, one could hear the bullhorn chants as the Israeli day parade marched up to 79 th street in Manhattan. Cute stuff to be sure, but what does it say about the "peace" these folks want? A quick check of the Bible indicates the existence of a Palestine (let's not get into a discussion about its borders), have the Israelis decided that the reference in the Bible doesn't exist, never did and never will?


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Seems to me something like, "3,5,7,9 - Let's have a Palestine - 2,4,6,8 - Right next to the Jewish state..." would have been the morally correct chant...
1 posted on 05/05/2002 9:51:37 PM PDT by rpage3
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To: rpage3
The word Palestine appears in the Bible? Maybe you need to do some more reading of history. The word is a Roman invention, there is one use of the word in the King James Version - but that's a translator's insertion 16 centuries later.
2 posted on 05/05/2002 10:05:00 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: rpage3
Yeah, but it's already there; it's called "Jordan."

Now how about letting Israeli's have a measly 15% of the Palestinian Mandate for it's intended purpose as a jewish state?

3 posted on 05/05/2002 10:06:15 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: rpage3
Well.. there is a Palestine, Texas and a Lake Palestine. Just hope they don't come to Texas and claim it.
4 posted on 05/05/2002 10:08:12 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: rpage3
The name "Palestine" was the name given to Judea and Samaria by the Romans expressly for the purpose of infuriating and subsuming the Jews living there who they'd conquered. There is no "Palestinian" culture, no "Palestinian" language, no "Palestinian" heritage. Just a bunch of innocent people, on the losing side of a war to destroy the nascent Jewish state, who should have been assimilated into the vast territories of the surrounding Arab states, but who are instead being used as political pawns and cannon fodder by those states in the ongoing effort to finish what they started years ago.
5 posted on 05/05/2002 10:09:07 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: spqrzilla9
So does it exist or not? More importantly, should it?
6 posted on 05/05/2002 10:09:35 PM PDT by rpage3
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If the nations of the world were interested in stability (and some justice for the Palestinians), the West bank should be ceded to Jordan and the Gaza strip to Egypt. I can't think of anything as potentially destabilizing to the region as a Palestinian state headed by Arafat. Its first likely victim would probably be Jordan, anyway.
7 posted on 05/05/2002 10:13:24 PM PDT by NCDoc
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Pretty remarkable that you brazenly post such an ill-informed vanity.

Arafat is a Palestinian, right? Then I guess Cairo will be the Pali State's capital. That is where Arafat was born. Of Arafat's cabinet, only 1 man was born in Judea or Samaria. All others were born in Egypt (3), Jordan (5), Lebanon (1) or Syria (1).

There is, indeed, NO SUCH THING as "Palestine".

8 posted on 05/05/2002 10:14:51 PM PDT by montag813
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To: rpage3
Palestine is NOT in the Bible, no way no how. The Philistines were not the same people as the Palestinians of today.
The real homeland of Palestine is Jordan, not Israel, but gee, let's not let the truth interfere with PC!
9 posted on 05/05/2002 10:16:06 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: rpage3
Jews do not follow the New Testement. Let alone the King James version. Anyways looking over Joel...seems like God saying that land belongs to the Jews anyways so your argument moot.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Joe/Joe003.html#4A>

10 posted on 05/05/2002 10:22:22 PM PDT by Iwentsouth
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All right, let me clarify this...First off, the word "Palestine" is mentioned in the King James version of the Bible and we (including today's marchers) all know what it means now even if it didn't mean the same thing at the time of the translation. Now, the point is that most people acknowledge that there will ultimately be a "Palestinian" state if there is to be peace in the region. Given this, my point was that it seemed to me that the folks parading here were either in denial or to the right of Sharon and are not really interested in "peace". As I said in the "comment" above, it seems to me that the morally correct chant would have been something else...
11 posted on 05/05/2002 10:24:35 PM PDT by rpage3
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Cute stuff to be sure, but what does it say about the "peace" these folks want?

I believe it says a whole lot about the peace these folks want...
After all, they weren't chanting "Death to Palestine" or "Death to America" or marching around burning flags and cutting their heads open.

You're right, cute little rhyme, but I see no false truth in that chant... Israel is a Jewish state.
Why does it seem totally acceptable that the arab buttheads can protest and say whatever they want, but when Jewish or Christian folks stand up and do the same they are heavily criticized?

Maybe it's just me.
12 posted on 05/05/2002 10:25:30 PM PDT by da_toolman
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To: Iwentsouth
You believe in a "God" that assigns land to "chosen" people? By the way, I am fully aware that Jews do not follow the New Testament...
13 posted on 05/05/2002 10:28:03 PM PDT by rpage3
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To: mvpel
I totally agree with ya, mvpel. I think another thing people don't consider is that not only is Arafat NOT Palestinian, but the guy is a dictator through and through. And the only Palestinians suffering are those who live under the Palestinians Authority. There are many Arabs who live in Israel who are pretty content and want to remain in Israel. And there are Arabs who live under the PA who sympathize with Israel, but unfortunately those people are rooted out pretty quickly and brutally lynched in the Pal streets and their tattered bodies strung up as an example. Why isn't the UN and the human rights watch people all over that? Some of these Pal sympathizers need to peruse www.memri.org. Also there was a great article from Mona Charen last week in jewishworldreview.com.... http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/charen1.asp
14 posted on 05/05/2002 10:28:43 PM PDT by Sally II
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To: rpage3
So does it exist or not? More importantly, should it?

No it does not exist. Never has and never should. If we are willing to create a state of Palestine again, (we did in Jordan and it was a mistake, they immediately attacked their neighbor), why are we not willing to create a state of Manson for Charles Manson who only killed and ate a dozen people. Has Charlie not killed enough to deserve a state? Are we going to create a State for every terrorist group that is willing to declare war on the US?

Why?

16 posted on 05/05/2002 10:32:39 PM PDT by American in Israel
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No I do not believe that. You brought up a Bible verse that mentioned Palestine. I looked it up read over the Chapters of Joel that mentions Palestine. The observation I made was it basically gives the land to the Jews.

Now you try to twist my meaning. If you are going to try to use that verse to try to make your case for a Palestinian state..I think is a self defeating argument.

17 posted on 05/05/2002 10:33:00 PM PDT by Iwentsouth
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To: American Preservative
"3,5,7,9 - There's No Such Thing As Palestine..."

We'll have to remember this one next time when we do the old standard...
"2,4,6,8 - Arafat is full of hate"

18 posted on 05/05/2002 10:33:49 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Iwentsouth
Please read my post #11...Thanks.
19 posted on 05/05/2002 10:34:53 PM PDT by rpage3
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