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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi

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To: Iowegian
Good point, but there is no strict rule against it, they just prefer teams that haven't played (this is what I heard on the radio), if possible. So if Colorado wins (and I think they can beat an overrated Okie team), where do they go and who do you think they will play?

All I've been hearing is that a win by Colorado is not good for USC or Kansas State. But very good for Notre Dame.

28,521 posted on 12/06/2002 7:27:13 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Dave, instead of saying what Catholics believe, say the RCC teaches.

Yes, that would appear to be one way out of it. I'll try to remember.

SD

28,522 posted on 12/06/2002 7:33:08 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
If people could, by their behavior change their "race," who would choose to be a minority in any country?

I think you would be surprised. I was. I worked with a girl who was in a minority group, and someoe asked her this very question. I believe that the only thing that kept a cat fight starting was the fact that the girl who was the minority had alot of common sense and control. As it was she got her point across that although she was a minority she saw nothing wrong with herself and would stay that way no matter what.

I was being somewhat cheeky, and I certainly didn't mean to imply that people are or should be ashamed of what they are.

I was saying that if race were completely arbitrary, no rational person would choose a race that was treated as second class. My point being that race is not arbitrary, and that whatever one is born, that is what they are.

SD

28,523 posted on 12/06/2002 7:37:27 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: CindyDawg
don't know how to link yet so i'll go into my comments and ping you to it CD

SoothingDave gave me the link. Thanks.

His appearance on O'Reilly was a reiteration of his letter.

28,524 posted on 12/06/2002 7:49:28 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: RobbyS
Since there are many,many Americans who, when asked, reject the liberties listed in the Bill of Rights, a case can be made that there are not many "true" Americans. The real test, of course, is whether the person will, in the end, subject his own opinion to that of "authority." or is at least willing to accept the consequences if he/she does not.

There is almost no comparison between the two.

For example, it is ok to be a Democrap and still keep your citizenship. This kind of degeneracy is, in fact, encouraged by our constitution.

Does the same hold true for the RCC?

Can a RC decide to join his local Baptist Church, become very active it it's activities, stop attending mass, stop contributing to the church, and still be called a Catholic?

Note: I didn't say he wouldn't be counted in the Catholic census for years, only that he isn't really, truly, a Catholic.

28,525 posted on 12/06/2002 8:01:00 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: SoothingDave
I>If you need $20 to get in to see a show, does it matter if you got the $20 from your own pocket, or if a friend gives it to you?

Does it matter that the "friend" gave you a counterfeit $20 bill?
28,526 posted on 12/06/2002 8:17:33 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: SoothingDave; angelo
Worldwide Catholic Population:

Catholic = 100 million.
Heretic = 1.1 billion.
Total = 1.2 billion*

* For internal use only. When publishing Catholic numbers always use the 1.2 billion number.

28,527 posted on 12/06/2002 8:26:06 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE; Quester
Does it matter that the "friend" gave you a counterfeit $20 bill?

Always off on a tangent, aren't we?

Quester said, In that final analysis, it will not be acceptable that you have acquiesed to accept the truth from any so-called teacher, however right or wrong he/she might be.

Accept the truth, he said. Not a counterfeit version.

His statement even acknowledges that this "truth" may be "right or wrong."

In other words, even if we get the truth right, it is still "not acceptable" if it came to us through any channel except private, individual revelation.

So I repeat, does it matter how we get our faith and truth, or if we get it?

SD

28,528 posted on 12/06/2002 8:28:29 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: al_c
Jesus wants us to approach him with the same kind of confidence, humbly asking for mercy and grace. What can hold us back? Indifference perhaps, or maybe unbelief, or even a feeling of unworthiness. Yet St. Paul reminds us that nothing can really separate us from the love of Christ, not even death itself (Romans 8:31-39).

. . .

Jesus wants to give us far more than we can ask or imagine. He wants intimacy with each one of us. He wants to lavish his love and friendship on us. St. Augustine once said: "God loves each of us as if there were only one of us to love." Let's draw near to the Lord in this Advent season with hopeful expectation that he will fulfill all his promises.

Wow! Two days in a row that I am in total agreement. No need for a mediator between us and the Lord! Wow!

28,529 posted on 12/06/2002 8:33:43 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE; angelo
When publishing Catholic numbers always use the 1.2 billion number.

More red herrings.

Who was arguing anything about populations, or using population as an argument for correctness?

Nobody.

Did you truly not understand what I was saying when I sad "Catholics believe?" Were you confused about what I meant?

No.

SD

28,530 posted on 12/06/2002 8:35:33 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Does this make sense? :) Becky

It makes sense to me.
28,531 posted on 12/06/2002 8:36:43 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; SoothingDave
Becky: Dave, instead of saying what Catholics believe, say the RCC teaches.

Dave: Yes, that would appear to be one way out of it. I'll try to remember.

Becky: Does this make sense? :) Becky

Reggie: It makes sense to me.

All together now:

;o)

28,532 posted on 12/06/2002 8:48:38 AM PST by malakhi
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To: SoothingDave
Quester said, In that final analysis, it will not be acceptable that you have acquiesed to accept the truth from any so-called teacher, however right or wrong he/she might be.

In other words, even if we get the truth right, it is still "not acceptable" if it came to us through any channel except private, individual revelation.

So I repeat, does it matter how we get our faith and truth, or if we get it?

I stand corrected. I missed the word "truth" which was unqualified. I suspect; however, that Quester probably meant "version of the truth". I further suspect you think the same but find it necessary to play your little game.

We'll have to wait for Quester to enlighten us on the meaning.

Note to Quester: Your replys are well thought out and exceedingly polite. Welcome. Would you mind telling us your sex in order that we may use he, she, her, him, when speaking of you?

28,533 posted on 12/06/2002 8:51:37 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: SoothingDave
Did you truly not understand what I was saying when I sad "Catholics believe?" Were you confused about what I meant?

I can't remember when I was l last confused about what you meant. Maybe it was before I got to know you and your penchant for "mental reservation".

I simply make an issue of it to prevent confusion for any newcomers.

28,534 posted on 12/06/2002 9:03:25 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: angelo
You're bad. ( In a thoroughly good sort of way )
28,535 posted on 12/06/2002 9:12:40 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: OLD REGGIE; Quester
I stand corrected. I missed the word "truth" which was unqualified. I suspect; however, that Quester probably meant "version of the truth". I further suspect you think the same but find it necessary to play your little game.

You miss the boat again.

Quester said "right or wrong," which means that the word "truth" he used could indeed have been the real truth. Not a simulation or fallacy.

So we return to the question for the third time.

In other words, even if we get the truth right, it is still "not acceptable" if it came to us through any channel except private, individual revelation.

So I repeat, does it matter how we get our faith and truth, or if we get it?

SD

28,536 posted on 12/06/2002 9:17:10 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: OLD REGGIE
I simply make an issue of it to prevent confusion for any newcomers.

How very condescending of you. It's really not a difficult subject. When someone says "Jews believe in the same God as we do," you don't pester him about whether that meant all Jews, even the athiest ones.

SD

28,537 posted on 12/06/2002 9:18:59 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
I will attempt to resolve the dilemma that I have created here.

My point in my last response was this.

If you depend solely upon, even, your trusted friend to provide you with the necessary $20.00 admission to the theater, you may end up with the necessary $20.00 with which to gain admission to the theater, ...

... or ... you may end up with a worthless counterfeit.

Wouldn't it be wise to examine what you have obtained and personally discern whether or not you have the real thing ?

Why, ... you might even wish to seek the counsel of the One who issued the $20.00 note(s).

It may, very well, turn out that what your friend has given you is valid, but it never hurts to check with the final authority. Especially when the show is one none of us want to miss.


28,538 posted on 12/06/2002 10:20:16 AM PST by Quester
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To: SoothingDave
So I repeat, does it matter how we get our faith and truth, or if we get it?

It matters very much and is exactly our issue. Does it come from God or is it man-made?

28,539 posted on 12/06/2002 10:28:27 AM PST by Iowegian
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To: OLD REGGIE
Reggie,

Thank-you for your welcome.

By the way, ... I'm a he.

Sorry for any difficulty that came with that ... (and any other) vagueness.


28,540 posted on 12/06/2002 10:28:55 AM PST by Quester
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