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To: AndrewC
As an argument for the "accidental" formation of a complex object, I consider it bilge. As a "Just So" story it is nice.

Bilge? You don't relate the nits you pick in the background material to the evolutionary pathway presented in the later part. You assume / hope that any scoffing you can do anywhere tarnishes the conclusion. You fly through the text finding gaps in the author's (perhaps anybody's) research. Are gaps proof of IC?

But, most tellingly, while you attack the completeness of the presentation, you dodge the author's key point:

But view it as a secretory structure, it is NOT IC, remove the filament and it still works, remove the hook and it still works, remove the motor and it still works, not as well as with the motor, but it still works.

Thus, if the flagella is a secretory system that has been co-opted for a motile function (while still retaining some of it's secretory function), then the ICness of the system is in the mind of the beholder, and a clear path for it's evolution is opened up.

An AndrewC reply is my idea of "all giftwrap, no present."
722 posted on 04/01/2002 6:17:41 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Bilge? You don't relate the nits you pick in the background material to the evolutionary pathway presented in the later part.

Absolutely, bilge. The story is just so. There was more evidence for the Mesonychus, Worms, and Lynx and you know where they went.

726 posted on 04/01/2002 6:48:59 AM PST by AndrewC
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