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To: Dimensio
The shoe is on the wrong foot, here. The Faithless have an impertinent habit of standing Truth on its head in their attempts to prove the impossible.

We have historical text records of all Creation, given to Man by God, which explain the origin of everything including the spiritual rebelliousness exhibited by those who have no Faith.

Now, the Faithless are demanding proof of God's existence, or merely stating (as if they somehow knew) that there is no God. Hogwash. It is entirely the responsibility of those puporting a new, improved explanation to prove their position, not the other way 'round.

Let scientists prove that God did not create the universe, and does not exist. Good luck.

455 posted on 03/29/2002 9:11:37 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: Gargantua
The shoe is on the wrong foot, here. The Faithless have an impertinent habit of standing Truth on its head in their attempts to prove the impossible.

Oh dear, a shifting of burden of proof.

We have historical text records of all Creation, given to Man by God, which explain the origin of everything including the spiritual rebelliousness exhibited by those who have no Faith.

You'll need to demonstrate that those text records are accurate. Why should I simply accept that they are true because you say so?

Now, the Faithless are demanding proof of God's existence, or merely stating (as if they somehow knew) that there is no God. Hogwash. It is entirely the responsibility of those puporting a new, improved explanation to prove their position, not the other way 'round.

Except that the "Faithless" aren't making a proposition (well, except those who assert that a God does not exist). The proposition is that there exists a God. The burnen of proof is on the claimant to demonstrate that the proposition is valid. It's no better than me demanding that you prove that you do not owe me a large sum of money (otherwise, you'd better pay up).

Let scientists prove that God did not create the universe, and does not exist. Good luck.

Exactly how would they go about proving such? What evidence would prove that God did not create the universe and that God does not exist?

Science works with what has been observed. It can only prove that a proposition is false if that proposition makes claims that can be tested and observed (the proposition is falsified when the tests fail to produce the predicted observations). If God can't be observed then science cannot start with the assumption that God is there (if God can be observed, then state how such an observation can be made, tested and repeated reliably).

Also note that no scientific theory asserts that there are no gods; in fact scientific theories are explanations of phenomena and not assertions against phenomena.
458 posted on 03/29/2002 9:57:35 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Gargantua
Let scientists prove that God did not create the universe, and does not exist. Good luck.

Let you prove that the Invisible Pink Unicorn (PBUHH) did not create the world with a trampling of Her hooves. We have text records given to man by Her Pinkness "which explain the origin of everything including the spiritual rebelliousness exhibited by those who have no Faith."

Good luck disproving that.

815 posted on 04/01/2002 10:15:33 PM PST by Quila
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