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To: gore3000
Liars say whatever they want, that is not an indictment upon the Christian church and has nothing to do with Christian teaching. His actions had nothing to do with Christian teaching but they had everything to do with Darwinian teaching - eugenics in particular, cleansing the race of undesirable characteristics by murder.

Eugenicis is hardly "Darwinistic". At best it's a perversion of evolution, attempting to force-fit biological events to a social structure.

Anyone who claims that evolution or Darwin's theories logically leads to eugenics is either lying or has a terrible understanding of biology and sociology.
378 posted on 03/28/2002 8:28:13 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
"Eugenicis is hardly "Darwinistic".

Yes it is and let me show you again where he encourages the killing of the weak, the imbecile, the unhealthy, even the poor:

With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
Darwin, "The Descent of Man", Chapter V.

395 posted on 03/28/2002 9:13:59 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Dimensio
Eugenicis is hardly "Darwinistic". At best it's a perversion of evolution, attempting to force-fit biological events to a social structure.

Good point, Darwin proposed natural selection (well, he didn't like the term, but that's what we use). It seems to me that killing off or sterilizing certain people isn't exactly natural.

415 posted on 03/28/2002 11:39:25 PM PST by Quila
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To: Dimensio
"Eugenicis is hardly "Darwinistic". At best it's a perversion of evolution, attempting to force-fit biological events to a social structure."

No it is not a perversion of evolution, it is the heart of evolution. Darwin himself advocated eugenics in his Descent of Man, as I already showed on this thread.

513 posted on 03/30/2002 3:32:56 AM PST by gore3000
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