[Cronos]

Thank you for that link

I did jump to 38:30 :)

In 38:17 he clearly points out uh, maybe I, the pre-trib rapture guy, am putting the interpretation wrong

Then he says the shepherd of hermas was pre-tribulation rapture -- it isn't - it in fact talks of the tribulation as IN THE PAST "You have escaped from great tribulation on account of your faith, and because you did not doubt in the presence of such a beast." -- note that HAVE ESCAPED from great tribulation

Here's the online Shepherd of Hermas -- can you see anything pre tribulation rapture related in that????

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Then he says Ireneaus

In 177 AD Ireneaus predicted that the world would end in 1000 AD.

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.. just a point to you -- it didn't

But Irenaeus wrote NOTHING of a pre-tribulation rapture - so your Doc Johnson is WRONG

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Then he says Hippolytus - Hippolytus was a student of Irenaeus and wrote pretty much the same. Only thing - Hippolytus wrote NOTHING about a pre-tribulation rapture and he said the world would end in 500 AD

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Just a hint - he too was wrong. The world din't end in 500 AD

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then next Victorianius - but again, no reference, not even saying what Doc Johnson think Victorianus wrote

Then EPhraem - and ephraem wrote NOTHING about a pre-tribulation rapture -- read it for yourself

Dude - your Doc Johnson just spouts disjointed sentences excerpted from various sources and strings them out of context

Have you, MHGinTN, read the Shepherd of Hermas or the Apocalypse of Ephraem? They're pretty short, I'd encourage you to read them yourself

[MHGinTN]

Gaslighting is not a lamp lighting ceremony. And denial, even if pretending to be scholarly, is still denial. Readers who watch Ken’s video can decide for themselves. You remain just a deceiving heretic. More of the scrolls are now available, so you either stick to trying to defend your lies or get up to date. I believe you will continue with your preferred lies.