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Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church
LifeSite News ^ | 5/4/22 | Claire Chretien

Posted on 05/13/2022 6:01:41 PM PDT by marshmallow

‘Mrs. Greene's statement about leaving the Church is as enlightening as it is saddening,’ commented Michael Hichborn, president of the Lepanto Institute.

(LifeSiteNews) – Following criticism of comments she made about the U.S. Catholic bishops, conservative firebrand U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene revealed that she was raised Catholic but left the Church “with great sorrow” when she had kids because she had concerns about the left-wing hierarchy protecting abusive priests.

“With great sorrow, and unwavering faith in Jesus Christ, I stopped attending Catholic Mass when I became a mother, because I realized that I could not trust the Church’s leadership to protect my children from pedophiles, and that they harbored monsters even in their own ranks,” the now-evangelical said in a lengthy statement.

The Georgia Republican was responding to the Catholic League’s Bill Donahue, who slammed her for suggesting in an interview with Church Militant’s Michael Voris that “Satan is controlling the Church.”

“The Church is not doing its job. And it’s not adhering to the teachings of Christ,” she added.

“It’s the Church leadership I was referring to when I invoked the Devil,” Greene clarified on Twitter. “Just so we’re clear, bishops, when I said ‘controlled by Satan,’ I wasn’t talking about the Catholic Church. I was talking about you.”

“The Catholic Church must throw out these monsters instead of lecturing the people its own bishops have driven away,” she continued, blasting the U.S. Catholic bishops as “some of the worst in the world” and “scheming bureaucrats in miters.” It was the “bishops’ wickedness” that drove her out of the Church, Greene said, and her own refusal to “submit the spiritual and physical livelihood of my children to these monsters.”

Greene, who is sometimes referred to as “MTG” (à la “AOC”), went on to say what many faithful Catholics who.......

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To: Elsie
Why would St. Paul confuse his converts in this way?

That's a darned good question!!
,br> 2 Peter 3:16 niv He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


Hmmm... Scripture... Hard to Understand? Easy to distort?

Free for all !!!

After re-reading the 2nd most famous 3:16….
I would hope
You should realize you are making an argument AGAINST sola scriptura.


541 posted on 05/20/2022 10:57:57 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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To: MurphsLaw; Luircin; imardmd1; aMorePerfectUnion; Mark17; Elsie; SouthernClaire; boatbums; metmom
What did Jesus do with the two who were on their way to Damascus? He opened for their understanding the written scriptures which were sufficient to detail Him and His coming. THAT would be the kind of Bible study mankind needs so profoundly now ... and it is written before there was even a New Testament of Him and His Body of Believers (established int he same fashion as He explained to Nicodemus in John 3 and the brass snake raised up in the desert). It is by belief that salvation is obtained, not by any works we may or may not do.

Jesus told you that blasphemies against Him, against His sacrifice for you can be forgiven, but blasphemies against the Holy Spirit WILL NOT be forgiven. Which blasphemy is committed by miss-characterizing the remebrance ritual of bread and wine?

And finally, our friend Elsie made a most profound posting when he noted for us all that the proof of Jesus using simile is displayed on the night in which Jesus was betrayed, when He in person took bread and broke it and gave it to His disciples saying this is my body about to be sacrificed for you. Elsie noted that there would be two bodies there if the bread was really the body of the Christ breaking the bread! In that profound realization it is plain that Jesus was using the bread to SIGNIFY His body and the wine to SIGNIFY His blood. Jesus further poured out the last cup of wine, calling it wine, the last cup in the Passover ritual. And He referred to it as wine and further told His disciples that He would not drink that cup of wine until He dioes it with them in His Father's Kingdom ... we will have passover celebration during the millennial reign of Chrst!

And Paul in relating that scene to his converts cautions them to be discerning of the Body of Christ Believers who might not be as economically fortunate by rejecting those fellow members of the Body of Christ. In rejecting fellow members they would be making themselves guilty of cannibalizing the body and blood of the Savior by not discerning correctly the fellow members making up the Body of Christ Ekklesia.

On the night He was betrayed, He had His discioples particiopate in the Blood of Christ by using the symbols to point to the actual. In so doing they are SPIRITUALLY partaking of / participating in the sacrificial power of His innocent blood shed for them ... and that was an event enacted BEFORE HE SHED HIS BLOOD FOR THEM AND US ON THE CROSS. That juxtaposition of time should be the biggest clue to you that the remembrance is not an actual sacrifice byu a ritual for remembering the power in the Blood of Jesus, power which redeems me nit by drinking His blood but by believing His blood is the power I must have to be redeemed and only He can Grace me with that blood in the spiritual realm, not at a Catholic altar, in the spiritual realm, God is Spirit and MUST BE worshiped in spirit and truth.

542 posted on 05/20/2022 1:00:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MurphsLaw

Here is a recent video which might interest you regarding the Esenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJoh5obKzVA


543 posted on 05/20/2022 1:12:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Very good post, MHG, which I hope will bless someone with the true meaning of the remembrance of Christ Jesus in the breaking of bread and the drinking of the wine. I think knowing about the true Passover would also greatly help someone to understand, also, and am glad you touched on it in your wonderful post.

Jesus was God then as much as He is now. When he told His disciples to take and eat the broken bread that was His body, He could have easily given a real part of Himself, His body, to them, and given them real blood to drink. That would be no great problem for God to do. After all, did He not turn water into wine? But that would have Him breaking His own law which He said He came to fulfill and to not destroy.

When He handed the disciples actual bread and actual wine, they could not have helped BUT to understand His meaning. We should remember all the times He used metaphors, etc., with His disciples. That was something they were certainly learned about at the time of the Last Supper.


544 posted on 05/20/2022 2:04:28 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: MurphsLaw

“Then at some point- these ladies were walking around with trays of little white cups and saltine crackers.”

“Looking back, it was one of the silliest things I can ever remember. Saltines? Welch’s grape juice (which I like a lot) – these were ordinary things found in the cupboard.”

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Did you give a nice tithe so that they’d have money to spend on nicer things for their future communions?


545 posted on 05/20/2022 2:10:23 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: MHGinTN

😃👍


546 posted on 05/20/2022 4:40:17 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: wardaddy

glad to have ya back.


547 posted on 05/20/2022 7:21:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MurphsLaw
If the earliest Church Fathers held the belief of The Body of Christ in the Eucharist- WHERE did this thinking come from?

Ask Eve.


There was one rule: Don't eat of that tree.

And what rules did she reply back to the serpent?

Genesis 3:2-3

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

WHERE did this thinking come from?

548 posted on 05/20/2022 7:28:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MurphsLaw
You should realize you are making an argument AGAINST sola scriptura.

Oh?

How?


You really need to BOLD the next few words...

...which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


Remember that Call no man father thingy?

549 posted on 05/20/2022 7:32:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’

WHERE did this thinking come from?

I have always asked, where did that thinking come from? While I would say, it probably would have been best, not to get near the tree, God never said not to touch the tree. He said, don’t eat of it.
She may have been tricked into believing, that the evil was in the fruit, not in the moral choice to disobey God. Also, some translations say she said, “lest you die.” Another mistake. God didn’t say, “lest you die.” God said it was a 💯%, ironclad guarantee, that they would die. They immediately died spiritually, and began to die physically.
When God told Satan, the savior would crush his head, I wonder if He meant, right then and there, that his time was short, or if that will come at a later time?

550 posted on 05/20/2022 8:31:16 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Elsie; MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom
Remember that Call no man father thingy?

Bro, this is basic, pre kindergarten, Sunday school class material. If cultists can’t even figure out, this most simple concept, how on earth are they going to understand the plan of salvation?

551 posted on 05/20/2022 8:40:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

——>While I would say, it probably would have been best, not to get near the tree, God never said not to touch the tree. He said, don’t eat of it.

Not exactly:

Gen 3:3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.


552 posted on 05/20/2022 9:11:29 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Mark17

The only thing they try to figure out is how to justify disobeying it.


553 posted on 05/20/2022 9:11:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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To: Mark17; Elsie

And then I saw post 548...


554 posted on 05/20/2022 9:13:15 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Mark17
They immediately died spiritually, and began to die physically.

Where does it say that? Is the first death is spiritual? Why did God sacrifice an animal if Adam died already?
555 posted on 05/20/2022 9:48:16 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: MHGinTN

What did Jesus do with the two who were on their way to Damascus? He opened for their understanding the written scriptures which were sufficient to detail Him and His coming. THAT would be the kind of Bible study mankind needs so profoundly now ... and it is written before there was even a New Testament of Him and His Body of Believers (established int he same fashion as He explained to Nicodemus in John 3 and the brass snake raised up in the desert). It is by belief that salvation is obtained, not by any works we may or may not do. Jesus told you that blasphemies against Him, against His sacrifice for you can be forgiven, but blasphemies against the Holy Spirit WILL NOT be forgiven.

Man you’re all over the place here...but I still see the Catholic view more than yours. I think you begin by mentioning the 2 disciples on the road to Emmaus... Your take is suppositional .... and attaching “sufficient” to the story is conjecture. Their ears were burning because Jesus was using scripture to show how Christ had to be crucified as foretold in this scriptures. They were defeated, despondent- !ost- when Christ met up with them, and he brought them to “see” him in a celebrated manner- by revealing himself in the breaking of the bread. This is what the scriptures do as accompaniment to the Eucharist- which is what occurs at every Mass- the Liturgy of the Word that builds to the Celebratory nature of the Resurrected Christ- and his victory over death- the Form of every Mass.

We’ve talked about this before.... there was no purpose for Jesus to stay with these disciples at Emmaus and then just disappear on them - UNLESS he was teaching them that HE was the climax the scripture always pointed to- revealing himself to them , finally, in the bread that they shared and consumed. They were blind to Christ until the Bread was consumed...
The brass snake or serpent was the result of Moses interceding (yes, Moses was an intercessor) on behalf of the Israelites who wanted relief from the snakes that they brought God’s wrath upon themselves for rejecting the Divine Manna he sent them to eat in the Desert. (The basis for Paul’s warning to the Corinthians about approaching the Real divine presence in the Bread of Life of Christ.)
So I don’t see how this 1st paragraph makes your position stronger.


And finally, our friend Elsie made a most profound posting when he noted for us all that the proof of Jesus using simile is displayed on the night in which Jesus was betrayed, when He in person took bread and broke it and gave it to His disciples saying this is my body about to be sacrificed for you. Elsie noted that there would be two bodies there if the bread was really the body of the Christ breaking the bread!

Two NATURES, not two bodies...

Yes indeed... indeed, as they murmured....”How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

Unfortunately the disciples who would leave, were convinced by the Jews this was not possible.- EITHER literally- OR Symbolically... or what it signified...
they still could not grasp the lesson of the Manna in the desert. Since they could not understand the union of Christ’s two separate natures.... all they saw was his flesh...

It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.+++

we receive all of Christ in the Eucharist- Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity... and that’s what Christ was configuring at the Last Supper. I can’t speculate on Scared Mystery. Here’s a better idea of what is going on there.

The simplest way to express what Christ asks us to believe about the Real Presence is that the Eucharist is really He. The Real Presence is the real Jesus. We are to believe that the Eucharist began in the womb of the Virgin Mary; that the flesh which the Son of God received from His Mother at the Incarnation is the same flesh into which He changed bread at the Last Supper; that the blood He received from His Mother is the same blood into which He changed wine at the Last Supper. Had she not given Him His flesh and blood there could not be a Eucharist. We are to believe that the Eucharist is Jesus Christ - simply, without qualification.
It is God become man in the fullness of His divine nature, in the fullness of His human nature, in the fullness of His body and soul, in the fullness of everything that makes Jesus Jesus. He is in the Eucharist with His human mind and will united with the Divinity, with His hands and feet, His face and features, with His eyes and lips and ears and nostrils, with His affections and emotions and, with emphasis, with His living, pulsating, physical Sacred Heart. That is what our Catholic Faith demands of us that we believe. If we believe this, we are Catholic. If we do not, we are not, no matter what people may think we are.
Father John A. Hardon S.J.

* In that profound realization it is plain that Jesus was using the bread to SIGNIFY His body and the wine to SIGNIFY His blood. Jesus further poured out the last cup of wine, calling it wine, the last cup in the Passover ritual. And He referred to it as wine and further told His disciples that He would not drink that cup of wine until He dioes it with them in His Father's Kingdom ... we will have passover celebration during the millennial reign of Chrst!

You can’t isolate scripture like that out of context. Now look at these words and see how they square with your Last Supper “signify”

+++ “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.+++

Now if you choose to isolate that verse- what do you signify that to mean on its own?


That juxtaposition of time should be the biggest clue to you that the remembrance is not an actual sacrifice byu a ritual for remembering the power in the Blood of Jesus, power which redeems me nit by drinking His blood but by believing His blood is the power I must have to be redeemed and only He can Grace me with that blood in the spiritual realm, not at a Catholic altar, in the spiritual realm, God is Spirit and MUST BE worshiped in spirit and truth.

The Blood from the Passover Lambs was always sprayed onto the Altar in the Temple. The Altar has always been central to Gods need of Sacrifice, being the main purpose of the Temple - Sacrifice.
We are not spirits... we are not in a spiritual realm.... we are in the flesh until we die, until our Resurrected bodies are in Christ.

We still have not got to an understanding about all the talk about blood- when Blood was so taboo as you had shown in the Penta. Why blood... why all this talk about boood when Scripture said- stay away?


556 posted on 05/20/2022 10:02:29 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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To: Elsie

Honor just your Mother then....


557 posted on 05/20/2022 10:05:12 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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To: Seven_0

God provided skins to cloth the first couple. The ritual animal sacrifice is to foreshadow the death of an innocent one to redeem them spiritually.


558 posted on 05/20/2022 10:12:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SouthernClaire
Did you give a nice tithe so that they’d have money to spend on nicer things for their future communions?

I was only visiting... it was a one time deal.
And I was practically a “none” at the time - I wasn’t giving any money or anything to any church then.
And though it was a strange thing for me to take part in... it can be assumed that everyone in attendance was fine with this communion they did-
I was only relating my perspective of a snack break.
559 posted on 05/20/2022 10:16:03 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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To: Philsworld
You expose your ignorance so often ... Genesis 2:17 (and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.') is God directing man, whereas Genesis 3:3 is Eve misquoting God; she did not hear it directly but was instructed by the man, so she was deceived whereas the man disobeyed.
560 posted on 05/20/2022 10:21:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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