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“Garabandal”

As bad as Wikipedia can be, please read its page “Garabandal apparitions” and particularly the section “Contents”. The bishop of the diocese of Santander, where Garabandal is located, said in 1967 that there was no apparition of the Blessed Virgin or St. Michael there. It’s propagandists say they wait for a final word from the Vatican but that’s not it works. The local bishop investigates alleged apparitions in his diocese and his decision will not be overridden by the Vatican. Please do not wait for the fulfillment of a 60-year old alleged apparition. One of its visionaries died in 2009. Why would the consciences of the people of this era be given a special “Warning”? Wouldn’t many at the Lord’s left hand say to Him on the day of Judgment: “Why didn’t you give me a special Warning?” Medjugorje, now 40 years running, is even worse. That hoax was condemned by the bishop there at the time of its occurrence. His successor concurred. At this point Medjugorje involves great sums of money with its never ending flow of pilgrims. Pope Francis’ gut is correct about Medjugorje. He says he views Mary as a Mother and not a postmistress who delivers a message every day. And yet he appoints someone to accompany the pilgrims. Please be discerning. Test, don’t fall for Catholic versions of the Rapture. IMO, both phony Catholic apparitions/revelations and the Rapture are versions of the second century heresy of Gnosticism where small groups of people think they have special knowledge/special insight and will receive special treatment. The Martyrs weren’t raptured. If they couldn’t flee to the next town, they were martyred. Sadly, people will still be waiting for the Rapture when they are told to get the mark of the beast. And then they will be set up for a crisis of and loss of faith at precisely the time a STRONG faith is most required. If there’s a Rapture would many of those at the left hand of the Lord on Judgment Day say: “Why didn’t you rapture me out of the Hellish pagan society I was living in?” The Rapture is yet another denial of the Cross. The Lord will whiz me up out of the sufferings of the last days.

Thanks for your thoughts about Garabandal. It’s been one of many supernatural curiosities I have been interested in and have researched over the years.

Garabandal is said to be the sequel to Fatima and, given the events of Fatima and how things played out, I remain watchful and keep my mind open to things in Scripture that might point to such an event.

I am not overly persuaded by counter opinions from church officials now, since I think there will always be some who follow the patterns laid down by their ancestors who conspired against Jesus, put Him to death on the Cross and then created some propaganda stories to make people believe Jesus was a big fake.

It’s tricky, but, in a way, their denials offer a kind of confirmation to the authenticity of such events. In the old days, they killed His prophets and they denied Him and His miracles, including that of conversion.

We see the same templates being used again and again today, both in the Church and in the governments of today, but especially so in our GovCo and its media with the various works of the Beast today, here and now, like with the vaxx perhaps?

I do read their counter arguments and let them speak to me, but try to remain a researcher and a good data taker taking good data.

Looking for and taking good supernatural data is tricky, but irresistible to me and the Catholics have a rich history full of very cool supernatural stuff going on. I am open minded to hear what it says and the Catholics say about it.

Like with the many families that claim me and with the many sides I am supposed to take with my loyalties to each, I try not to differentiate my self into any of the many versions of Christianity and not get caught up in the whose church is His Church arguments dating back to the 12 disciples.

I don’t know enough and am still a seeker and I instead want to keep an open mind to the whole body of Christ, instead of the ways we have sliced Him up.

As it is, I think all of us have a piece of the Truth along with some other stuff we came up with to explain and support our piece of the Truth.

And, at various times, we Christians will fight each other to the death to maintain ours as being the right one.

Instead, I’d rather listen and learn and hopefully be ready to meet Him whenever and how that meeting happens.

And I thank you for sharing your thoughts with me(!) and I hope you don’t mind me sharing the stuff I have found with you.