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To: metmom

Could be, but some folks just want to argue.

You lay 20 verses down from Scripture and their pride will never allow them to see what the words actually say.


47 posted on 10/11/2021 5:52:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; metmom
Could be, but some folks just want to argue. You lay 20 verses down from Scripture and their pride will never allow them to see what the words actually say.

BINGO! It's the same pride that convinces them they will be saved BECAUSE they do good works, obey the commandments, etc. To rest in Jesus Christ who saves us by grace through faith in His finished work on the cross leaves them with nothing to boast about. But, they will swear up and down that they DO believe in the gospel of grace - that we are saved by faith and not by our works! Their self-righteous pride blinds them from comprehending that to say we are saved by God's grace and not by our works but that unless we do good works we won't be saved is no different than saying our works save us. By that reasoning faith plays a role but it's only a supporting one - it's not THROUGH faith. They remain unable to understand their own confusion.

It's a simple concept - WHO gets the glory? If it's my faith and my good deeds, obedience to the commandments, giving, etc. which saves me, then Jesus has to share the glory with me. But when salvation comes by grace through faith in what Christ has done for me and NOT because of my works - which the Scriptures plainly state - then Jesus gets ALL the glory.

    “I am the LORD, that is My Name; My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved idols." (Isaiah 42:8)

60 posted on 10/11/2021 8:29:55 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
... allow them to see what the words actually say.

At least EVE had an excuse: she didn't hear from GOD directly to not EAT of the fruit in the middle of the garden.

Thus, when the Doubter came along...


(I've no clue where she came up with '...and do not touch it.")

88 posted on 10/12/2021 6:03:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
... EVE had an excuse

We've none, for the Bible is freely available to all.

And...


89 posted on 10/12/2021 6:06:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

1 John 2:27
As long as his Spirit remains in you, you do not need anyone to teach you.
For his Spirit teaches you about everything, and what he teaches is true, not false.
Obey the Spirit’s teaching, then, and remain in union with Christ.


90 posted on 10/12/2021 6:07:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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