Why don't you be honest for once and admit it galls you to think that there are Christians who disagree with your cult's interpretation of Scripture, who genuinely love the Lord, believe in the promises of God, demonstrate in their lives that they love God through living holy lives in obedience to Him through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit and WILL be in heaven for eternity because of God's grace? Here you strive to make yourself worthy by your works when it is clear as day that we CANNOT EVER BE WORTHY OR DESERVE SALVATION. That is why it is by grace we are saved and NOT our works. You are trusting in your deeds to save you and they NEVER can!
You accuse me of teaching "that Christians have a license to sin and that there is no PENALTY for unrepentant sin" which I have NEVER done - that DOES make you a liar and a false accuser! Show the post where I did that - you can't and you will bluster and huff some excuse for why you can't. Your pride has blinded you from understanding what GRACE means, just like the Pharisee in Jesus' example. It is not a license to sin with no consequences. Rather, it is the unmerited favor of God by which He gives us eternal life when we place our trust in Him. It is a new birth by which the Holy Spirit indwells us until the day of redemption, convicts us of sin, spurs us to live holy lives that honor God, to walk in newness of life not to be saved but because we are saved. And part of that grace is the discipline of our Heavenly Father who chastens, corrects and nurtures us as He is conforming us into the image of Christ. Those "consequences" you claim we say don't exist ARE part of God's work within our hearts. What you refuse to accept is that the consequence of hell - of actually losing our eternal salvation because of what we may do - is NOT one of them. When He saves us, HE saves us for eternity because if we are not saved by our works, we cannot be kept saved by our works either. Perhaps one day you will get it.
I still pray for you that your spiritual eyes are opened and you come to genuine faith in Christ and are saved. Then you will rejoice in the assurance of your salvation and serve God out of gratitude for His unspeakable gift rather than obligation and fear.
To: boatbums
Sounds like you are not going to answer the question. That must mean that you don’t have an answer that will refute my claim that your position means that there is no penalty for unrepentant sin, and that is tantamount to a license to sin, if that saved person so wishes (and many do). You called me a liar, falsely. Then, you tried to cover it up by refusing to answer the question or saying you and your crew have answered it multiple times but I just don’t comprehend it or simply refuse to believe (more lies and bearing false witness) because you know what the answer really is. And, there goes your once saved, always saved, no matter what happens later in that life, creed. Yes, that means that you bore false witness against me. Some kind of Christian you are, aren’t you? You could have just answered the question and let the chips fall where they may. But then you would have been boxed into a corner, right? You probably figured that one out pretty quick, didn’t you?
444 posted on 8/22/2021, 10:05:33 PM by Philsworld