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To: MurphsLaw
I wasn't implying anything except that your heretic, Bobby Barron, rejects Christ's very words in Holy Scripture.

Hell Is Real—and It Isn’t Empty

Therefore, without succumbing for a moment to anything-goes presumption, we are permitted to hope that all people might be saved. Bobby Barron

Yet, if one thinks that to “hope that all men be saved” means that everyone who has ever lived will evade hell, I would argue that this position is contrary to Holy Scripture, Holy Tradition, magisterial teaching, and personal revelations to saintly Catholics through the centuries.

45 posted on 05/02/2021 10:28:46 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Ok..I agree...

Now Can you - or can't You say who is exactly in hell ??
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Or is it more like we assume people have to be in hell - we just don't know exactly who?
46 posted on 05/02/2021 11:20:33 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“speak against the holy Ghost, it shall not be Forgiven him, in this world, NOR in the world to come)
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To: ebb tide
Your beef is with THE Church and its Catechism....

1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will.92 In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere "to the end"93 and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God's eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for "all men to be saved."94 She longs to be united with Christ, her Bridegroom, in the glory of heaven:

Hope, O my soul, hope. You know neither the day nor the hour. Watch carefully, for everything passes quickly, even though your impatience makes doubtful what is certain, and turns a very short time into a long one. Dream that the more you struggle, the more you prove the love that you bear your God, and the more you will rejoice one day with your Beloved, in a happiness and rapture that can never end.95

.....but you already knew that...
47 posted on 05/02/2021 2:15:17 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“speak against the holy Ghost, it shall not be Forgiven him, in this world, NOR in the world to come)
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