Posted on 03/18/2021 3:40:30 PM PDT by JAG 5000
The Romans Road is an oldie-goldie gospel tract that has been around for decades.
I mail 'em out to people at random {amazon has them}
This tract is called The Romans Road because all the Bible verses are taken from the New Testament book of Romans and there are 6 of them and they say this:
{1} Everyone Needs Salvation --Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
{2} Jesus Died For Our Salvation -- Romans 5:8 "God demonstrates His love towards us, in that, while we were sinners, Christ died for us."
{3} Salvation Is A Gift -- Romans 6:23 "The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
{4} We Are Saved By Grace -- Romans 11:6 "and if by grace, then it is no longer of works: otherwise grace is no longer grace.
{5} Salvation Comes Through Faith -- Romans 4:5 "To him who ... believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness."
{6} God Saves All Who Call Upon Him. -- Romans 10:13 "whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
So?
So pray this simple prayer from the heart:
"Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins
and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust
and follow You as my Lord and Savior. In Your Name. Amen." __from the Billy Graham Crusades
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"If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that
you profess your faith and are saved." ___The Apostle Paul Romans 10:9-10
JAG
Sorry, you are standing on what Jesus told His Jewish disciples regarding their Matthew 23/24 questions about The Temple and the end of the age, for Israel. That is not addressed to the Church but to Israel and the seventieth week of Daniel. The whole premise of replacement theology is a satanic diversion. So it is not surprising that a cultist of another stripe has adopted this fraudulent use of scripture.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
I Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Rom 7:22-25 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Amen!
Having been to Israel the old Roman Road has a very different meaning. It’s the name given to the road connecting Jerusalem and Jericho. It’s an amazing sight and for tourists they give it as the location for where the parable of the Good Samaritan takes place. Also look up St. George’s monastery which you can view from a distance while on the road. Breathtaking is an understatement.
I covered 1 John 3:9 thoroughly earlier in this thread. I would invite you to go back through the posts if you haven’t already.
Galatians 5:17: You are absolutely correct in that we have two natures. But, it is also correct and very clear that the only way that Christians will ever “overcome” sin is with the help of God through the Holy Spirit. We are not robots and there is no magical switch that can be flipped to stop sinning once we are saved by grace. And Paul was correct in that victory over sin is only possible through Jesus Christ (it’s a spiritual war). Just because we are saved by grace (faith unto salvation) doesn’t mean we CAN’T sin. Same for Romans 7:22-25
Galatians 5:
17. Against the Spirit. The seemingly interminable warfare goes on, the struggle
between the inclination to do right and the inclination to do evil. As Paul analyzed this
conflict in his own past experience he saw victory possible only through Jesus Christ (see
Rom. 7:24 to Rom. 8:2).
These are contrary. Inevitably and unalterably so. There is no compromise between
the two. Compromise with evil never results in good.
The things that ye would. See on Rom. 7:21–24. Paul’s teaching concerning the
weakness of the flesh is out of harmony with the belief that there is latent in man a force
by which he can overcome evil tendencies.
22. I delight in. Gr. sunēdomai, literally, “I rejoice with,” the only occurrence of this Greek word in the NT. It is perhaps stronger than “I consent unto” in v. 16 (cf. Ps. 1:2; 119:97).
The law of God. The article is present also in the Greek (see on ch. 2:12). Paul may be referring to the whole of God’s will revealed to man.
After the inward man. See on v. 17.
23. Another. Gr. heteros, “another of a different kind.” Heteros not only distinguishes but often contrasts (see on Gal. 1:6, 7). This different “law” stands opposed to the law that the inward man approves. The “law of sin” (Rom. 7:23, 25)—the malign force of v. 21 (see comment there)—takes advantage of every fleshly impulse.
In my members. That is, in the organs and faculties of my body (see also Rom. 3:13– 15; 7:5; 1 Cor. 6:15; 12:12, 18, 20).
Warring against. Gr. antistrateuomai, the only occurrence of this word in the NT. The form of the verb implies the carrying on of a military campaign. The law in the members is on a campaign against the law of the mind (see also Gal. 5:17; 1 Peter 2:11).
The law of my mind. By “mind” Paul means the contemplative intelligence, the “inward man” (v. 22). It is this higher self that agrees that the law of God is good (vs. 12, 16, 22). And the law of God revealed to and approved by the mind becomes the law of the mind. On the other hand, Paul sees another law working through the impulses of the body and desires of the flesh, the law “which is in my members,” “the law of sin” (see on v. 21).
Bringing me into captivity. Or, “making me a prisoner.” The word aichmalōtizō occurs elsewhere in the NT only in Luke 21:24 and 2 Cor. 10:5. Paul has employed very strong expressions in this verse to describe the severity of the conflict with sin. He represents himself as engaged in a life-and-death struggle to escape from the captivating power of his evil inclinations.
24. Wretched. Gr. talaipōros may also be translated “distressed,” “miserable.” The only other occurrence in the NT is in Rev. 3:17, where talaipōros describes the condition of the Laodicean church. The distress resulting from the inner conflict, and sometimes agonizing struggle, between good and evil causes Paul to utter this apparently despairing cry and call for help. But he knows the source of deliverance from his troubles and hastens to declare it (Rom. 7:25).
Who shall deliver me? Or, “Who will rescue me?” The question provides Paul with an opportunity to express the good news that is the theme of his whole epistle. Does deliverance come through law? Can a man win release and freedom by the strength of his own will and intellect? In vain have these methods been tried, and the disastrous results have been clearly seen. There is only one way, “through Jesus Christ our Lord” (v. 25).
The body of this death. Or, “this body of death.” The Greek construction is inconclusive as to whether “this” is to be connected with “body” or with “death,” though the latter connection seems more natural. The meaning of this passage has been much disputed. It at least seems to be generally agreed that there is no evidence that Paul is alluding to an ancient custom of chaining a living prisoner to a corpse, though this horrible practice affords a striking illustration of the spiritual predicament Paul is describing.
Paul regards the body, the flesh, as the seat of sin, the dwelling place of the law of sin that works in the members to bring forth death (vs. 5, 13, 23, 25). He does not mean by this that the physical body is evil (see on v. 5). His cry for deliverance is for release from bondage to the law of sin, so that his body shall no longer serve as the seat of sin and death, but rather may be offered to God as a “living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God” (ch. 12:1).
25. I thank God. Textual evidence is divided (cf. p. 10) between this and the reading, “Thanks be to God.” Paul does not give a direct answer to his question, “Who shall deliver me?” Nor does he state for what he is thanking God. But this is plainly indicated by the context. What the law cannot do, what the conscience cannot do, what unaided human strength cannot do, can be accomplished by the plan of the gospel. Complete deliverance is available through Jesus Christ, and through Him alone. Compare “Thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Cor. 15:57).
This is the climax toward which Paul’s reasoning in this chapter has been pointing. It is not enough to be convinced of the excellence of the law or to acknowledge the wisdom and justice of its obligations. It is not enough to consent unto it as good or even to delight in its precepts. No amount of earnest striving after obedience will avail against the law of sin in the members, until the struggling sinner surrenders in faith to Christ. Then surrender to a person takes the place of legalistic obedience to a law. And since it is surrender to a person dearly loved, it is felt as perfect freedom (see SC 19; MH 131; DA 466).
I myself serve. Some have wondered why, after reaching the glorious climax in the expression “I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord,” Paul should refer once more to the struggles of the soul from what he apparently had been delivered. Some understand the expression of thanksgiving as a parenthetical exclamation. They believe that such an exclamation follows naturally the cry, “Who shall deliver?” They hold that before proceeding with an extended discussion of the glorious deliverance (ch. 8) Paul summarizes what he has said in the preceding verses and confesses once again to the conflict against the forces of sin.
Others suggest that by “I myself” Paul means, “left to myself, leaving Christ out of the picture.” They believe that Paul is here stating a general truth that is valid at any point in the Christian experience. Hence they consider Paul’s exclamation to be not parenthetical, but in good logical sequence. Anytime a man tries to find victory over sin, of himself, apart from the power of Christ, he is doomed to failure.
In cse this post sounds a bit ‘off’ you might need to know the philsworld poster is a raving Seventh Day Adventist. The posts frequently lack a source citation.
No, that is not the Christian Trinity...That's the Catholic Trinity...
I believe in the bible Trinity... God does not include the Father...
God IS the Father...
Unlike the trinity of man (which was made in the image of the Trinity of God) the Trinity of God has the unique ability to be separate from the Godhead and still function quite well...We have a little trouble doing that...
You have this funny Catholic diagram which shows God in the center with the Trinity surrounding it...And since parts of the Trinity can be missing from that center circle and that center circle is still God, can all 3 parts of the Trinity be missing from God and still have God function...
I would say that's impossible because for one there is never any mention in the bible of the Father being missing from the Godhead...If all three elements are missing from that center circle, where is God??? So your picture is not a depiction of the Trinity of the Bible...It is a depiction of four elements of the Trinity...Five if you include Mary...
Joh_6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
2Pe_1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
1Pe_1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Just as an aside, you recently claimed the Trinity doesn't exist in the bible that your religion made it up and your religion is Truth so you know from that the Trinity exists...
There is no God the Son, nor God the Holy Spirit in the scriptures...There is only God the Father...
And yes Jesus is the Father and so is the Holy Spirit...And the Holy Spirit is Jesus...Perhaps you figure they are all standing up there under the umbrella of God which you consider to be ONE...
Joh_14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Gen_1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him
Col_1:15 (Jesus) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
God the Father doesn't have an image...
Heb 1:3 (Jesus) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person
Jesus is the image of the invisible God the Father...When people will confront God the Father they will see Jesus...
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
God the Father is Lord.
Jesus is Lord.
The Holy Spirit is Lord.
Thanx...Isn’t it funny how unsaved people see the bible, and then think they know something...
SDA bible commentary, Hater.
“Thanx...Isn’t it funny how unsaved people see the bible, and then think they know something...”
For certain, Iscool. It’s a desperate searching of Scripture by some here to find either a “gotcha,” as MHG calls some of it, or trying to force Scripture to side with one’s wrong beliefs about the text rather than letting God speak and be true and every man be a liar.
As with the referenced Isaiah passage being forced to say something it doesn’t, it is laughable but for any young Christian trying to learn the Bible and falling for it. I would have scratched my head in great confusion if I’d seen the post in my early Christian years. I would have VERY wrongly assumed the poster knew what he was talking about.
Does the “H” in MHGinTN stand for Hater?
Does the “H” in MHGinTN stand for Hater?
Maybe the “G” stands for Gotcha?
To add one more to your references, Iscool:
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
If Jesus actually said born from above, where did Nick get the nutty idea that Jesus was talking about climbing back into the womb???
Actual verse
Joh 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
Cronos' concoction
John 3:31 15 The one who comes from above (Anothon) is above (Apanow) all. The one who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of earthly things. But the one who comes from heaven (is above all).Those that come again are again all, Makes no sense at all.
Joh 3:31 o anwqen erxomenov epanw pantwn estin o wn ek thv ghv ek thv ghv estin kai ek thv ghv lalei o ek tou ouranou erxomenov epanw epanw pantwn estin estin
Cronos, I think you need a new Lexicon...Where'd you get that one, China???
“And one more time”, HATER, Why don’t you tell all of us about the Catholic lie of FUTURISM and how it became the lie of the Pre Trib Rapture?
or,
Tell all of us why you refuse to discuss it?
One more time, HATER.
LOL, are you stamping your widdle feet while you type hat? LOL
Endurance in believing in Christ — Matthew 10:22
... whoever endures to the end will be saved.
Matthew 24:13
But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.
There wasn't a saved by grace thru faith Christian within 30 years of there...Those were full blooded, Sabbath worshiping, pork abstaining Jews...That has nothing to do with the Gentile Christian church revealed to Paul...Those people gained favor with God by visiting people in prison and feeding people...
But you know what??? All that is going to be in vogue during the Tribulation AFTER the church is outta here...
You do realize that many of your posts permeate of HATE? Maybe seething hate? Palpable? The great Christian, MHGinTN, is a hater. You should learn to dial that hate down a little. Not very Christian-like. You are a professed Christian, right?
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