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To: MHGinTN

Deceptively conflating? When Jesus says, “Unless you eat of my flesh and drink of my blood, you shall not have life within you” and then months (weeks?) later says, “This [bread] is my body, given for you” you think that’s deceptively conflating? Do you instead prefer Daniel1212’s conflation with “My meat,” using the Greek word that probably meant, “craving” and now means “stink,” “rot,” or “fetish”?

When in the West, a single word was added to the Apostle’s Creed, (translated, “[He proceeds from the Father] and the son”) it tore the Christian world in two, even though the Greeks conceded that what the Latins meant was not a heresy. And Protestants worry that Catholics have invented all sorts of heresies, and spread them successfully from India to Morocco, Norway to Ethiopia in spite of the local churches that weren’t Catholic and had already broken away from the Catholic churches over much, much, much finer theological details. (Sucn as: Since the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father through the Son, is it false to say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son in addition to from the Father.)


202 posted on 02/16/2021 8:51:40 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Upon completing the remembrance ceremony, Jesus referred to the contents of the cup as wine and said He would not drink again of the fruit of the vine until in The Kingdom.

Read the scene in all three Gospels which record it. Jesus identified the ceremony as a remembrance fo Him until He comes. The salvation of the dead spirit is a spiritual reality, not a hocus pocus through the alimentary tract. Read John 6 again, noting how many times JESUS refers to believing as the measn to receive the SPIRITUAL nourishment.

In the scene of the remembrance ceremony the night He was betrayed, JESUS shows us the metaphor is just that by identifying the fruit of the vine after the ceremony is completed. Jesus uses the physical bread and wine to illustrate our need to SPIRITUALLY feed on Him spiritually just as He was nourished SPIRITUALLY by His Father while in His physical body. And to top it all, right there at the end of John 6 it is JESUS Who says the flesh profiteth nothing, it is the spirit which gives life and His words are spirit and life!

206 posted on 02/16/2021 9:04:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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