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To: Rurudyne

The bible has metrics too.

The bible also predicted that there was going to be about 2,000 cubits between Israel and the ark before crossing over into the promised land.

Interesting that same number,about 2,000, is used in numbering the unclean swine that were demon possessed.

Moses and Aaron’s rods becoming serpents wasn’t just an event.
It was prophecy.
Nadab and Abihu dying wasn’t just an event. It was prophecy.
Er and Onan dying wasn’t just an event. It was prophecy.

Satan entering Judas (12th apostle in the ‘church’ and the one holding the money bag) wasn’t just an event. It was prophecy.

Satan controls all religion. All cults.

And the bible predicted it.
Even the birth of Judah’s sons to Tamar speaks to darkness in the ‘Kingdom’.

The world, especially religion, is full of Satan’s influence.

Demon possessed swine= unclean doctrines and teachings.
About 2,000.

That doesn’t just describe Islam.
That’s an indictment on the whole world, even and maybe especially, Judeo Christianity. Since the church is the representation of the Kingdom of heaven on Earth. A renewed garden.
But even Genesis tells us there were two trees in the garden and a serpent. Wonder where the church sees itself in that story.
Does it see itself as the tree of life or the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?
The church most certainly represents in its history good and evil, and well Adam and Eve eating that poison fruit is not a life sentence, but a death sentence.

Again, the bible predicted about 2,000 years of demon possessed swine.
The bible also predicted a 40 year period where Israel was to wander in the wilderness.
Multiply 40 by 50, number affiliated with Pentecost and the birth of the church, and one gets 2,000.

Two leavened (leaven represents false teachings) loaves is part of the offering at that Feast.

The metrics say
Nobody is good. No. Not one.

Islam doesnt have the Son,so they are Antichrist by scripture.

What’s Judeo Christianity’s excuse for the last about 2,000 years?
Also Antichrist?

Maybe His Kingdom is still truly not of this world.
And the fighting down here has been to see which side of Satan’s divided kingdom rules.

Since the first Protestant reformers called the Papacy and Pope ‘Antichrist’, it appears Antichrist is winning.

But because that ‘Antichrist’ is ‘Christian’ their doctrines appear not be completely demonic.

Satan isn’t going to deceive the whole world with ‘Islam’.
But Satan calling today Moon Day isn’t Islamic.
It’s ‘Judeo Christian’.

So that isn’t deceit. That’s just what today is according to ‘Antichrist’.
Not Antichrist Islam, but Antichrist Christianity.

The bible metrics point to Satan getting legal right on the Earth and in the ‘garden’ and religion.

How he can possibly fulfill prophecy and ‘deceive the world can be speculated within religion.
But for some,Satan does it today.
And not exclusive to Satans work in Islam.

If people want Islam destroyed, destroy their false goddess Frigg day.

But Antichrist Islam didn’t create that day.
Another Antichrist did.


17 posted on 08/24/2020 9:28:04 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

I’m not going to discuss some of your ideas on prophesy but I will demonstrate how your response is a straw man for not actually being a response to what I’d written.

I wrote, quoting:

Islam started where it is.

Christ told Pilate that because His kingdom was not of this world explained why His followers were not out fighting to free Him.

Mohammad and company started killing, raping, slaving, pillaging and looting pretty much the moment that they had enough military power to do so ... which kinda tells you where this Allah’s kingdom is by comparison.

So if going cult is a benchmark then it should probably include how long it took as part of that metric.

(end quote)

And the “metric” I was pointing out related exactly to while men were best being disciples of their respective masters.

That would mean I was inherently pointing to a time before Christians had gained ANY notoriety for being what we might call “bad disciples” who did not emulate Christ.

This is the BIG reason why your post really wasn’t a good response to mine because I was implicitly referring to the fact that there WAS such a time as when many Christians were good disciples, such that even pagan observers noted that they had a profound love for each other among other such things.

Meanwhile with Islam, with Mohammad among them leading them and they emulating him as good disciples of his example (and Muslims are commended, or even commanded, to follow Mohammad’s example) they went straight way out to wars of unprovoked aggressions.

Everything you posted could be lumped under the heading of what happens when “Christians” do not emulate Christ.

We would agree that not emulating Christ is a bad thing, and bad things happen when Christians are not disciples of Christ. I could, for example, point to the fact that we seem to see Romans 1:18-32 going on in far too much of our society as a specific example to show certain “Christians” are not disciples of Christ at all.

Yet on the other hand Islam, which was expressly born from the spirit of antichrist, presents us with the opposite truth ... that very bad things happen when Muslims emulate Mohammad, inescapably so.

There isn’t a real comparison between these two. The Gospel is and remains proverbial fine china of the highest quality and value even if some people have used it as their chamber pot whereas Islam is a proverbial chamber pot no matter if some “Muslims”, who are not disciples of Mohammad and who do not emulate him, have cleaned it up and are using it as if it were fine china.

To be blunt the fact that human beings are bad disciples in general is both why you could make your points about “Christianity” and why so-called “moderate” Muslims who just want to have ordinary lives not filled with violence, that they might have careers and friends/neighbors and civil societies are around to confuse people into believing that there is a “religion of peace” to be found in Islam.


18 posted on 08/24/2020 4:30:06 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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