Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
There's the action; but what is the method?
No, thank YOU!
We all tend to get occasionally frustrated at this way of communicating and can get into cat fights if we do not watch out.
How you guys keep YOUR sanity, while trying to herd us, is beyond my understanding.
Good idea; since that would be kinda like mindreading; right?
So you probably shouldn't do it later; either.
We DO; however; have written accounts about what MANY Catholics think about Mary; so there is not much need for any PROT to use their imagination.
Most often they attribute WAY more power to her than is found anywhere in the Book Rome produced so long ago.
How DARE you 'believe' Jesus' words in John 6:28-29!
Next ya know you'll be following His command in Matthew 23:9!
Later has arrived...
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What a tangled web we weave...
Not sure that's possible.
Anything you add to the saving work of Christ on the cross is what you are depending on for salvation because you are saying that the work of Christ on the cross, suffering and dying and pouring out His blood for the atonement, itsn't enough.
Next ya know you'll be following His command in Matthew 23:9!
Yeah, I had a weak moment, and I actually believe the words of Jesus. I wish I could say it wont happen again, but I can absolutely guarantee you it will. 😁 When I was a catholic, I called the priest, father. Like bless me father, for I have sinned. Its been 75 years since my last confession. Father, have you got about 8 hours, so I can list all my racy sins? Now that I am an ex catholic, I dont call any man father. 👍🤣😆🇵🇭
You, sir/madame have NAILED IT!
Is this thread not touting Mary as the rope to reel in sinners? Mary is fair game, the Mary of Catholiciism that is, not The Blessed Mother of Jesus.
“The Body of Christ is made up of ALL those born from above by the Holy SPirit, and the members can be found in many denominations, even Catholic churches....”
I believe that, too. And I’ve wondered lately if those who are born from above while remaining in the Catholic Church throughout their lives here are something like the nine of Jesus’ twelve disciples, who were close to Him and knew Him, but not nearly as close as Peter, James and John, or perhaps they were even more distant still, like the other unnamed disciples Jesus had. Many in those groups also fell away because they just didn’t really know the Lord, either. In any case, I believe that there are far more people who are very close to the Lord and experience knowing Him in evangelical Protestant churches than there are in the Roman Catholic church. Through the Bible the Lord reveals Himself to us and teaches us about Himself, and through meditating on His Living Word that life in His Word works in us. If we are drawn to Him, too, we’ll want to know Him better through His Word.
I (male) would rather NOT have made the observation at ALL. I was in many ways a lot happier in ignorance. I’ll say this much though... if a person cares to be honest “enough” with themselves and with The Father... they’ll get answers from Him that are true, if not quite unexpected. What I wrote in that previous posting isn’t something that’s easily or trivially perceived. In fact, most can’t or WON’T. But what does it say about the time we live in when an “apostate” entity is given the title of “The Church”? Things that make ya go, “Hmmmmmm!”
Dear brothers, I think we all know that.
Thank you for letting me know what's on your mind.
Mrs. Don-o, if you were to read to uninitiated children the descriptions of Mary by Catholics, they would describe her as a goddess. I can’t imagine and just don’t want to imagine addressing another creature as “our life, our sweetness and our hope.” And the next line says, “to THEE do we cry,” does it not? Not being worldly minded, as many Protestants are who convert to Catholicism (saying things such as that Catholicism has more respect for science), but being minded to follow Jesus and know and love Him ever more, it profoundly saddens and disturbs me to see how Catholics miss out on not knowing what it’s like to acknowledge all of God’s nature to be His alone. We make our choices and we can only know the experience of what we choose and “miss out” on what we don’t choose. When Catholics do things such as call Mary “our life, our sweetness and our hope,” it is one more way in that they miss out on attributing to God what’s His alone.
This is an example of Mary sounding like a goddess in many ways:
https://www.thedivinemercy.org/news/Our-Life-Our-Sweetness-and-Our-Hope-7870
This shows why children need careful instruction, so they do not carry this misunderstanding into adulthood.
I would start with three sets of poker chips stacked up in small, medium, and large stacks.
Then I would explain that some people might think that the honor accorded to good people (like your mother and father), compared to Mary, compared to God, corresponds to the small, medium, and large stacks.
I would then say "But that's wrong!"
Then I would combine all the stacks into one, and say that represents the honor accorded to all God's creatures (including your mom and dad); and the honor accorded to God is (here I would raise my hand up, up, up) is so high it would go through the ceiling and the roof, and up above the clouds, and then up to the moon (depending on how much the child knows about the dimensions of the Universe) and then so high nobody could reach it, because the honor of God is infinite.
An important vocabulary word: infinite.
So the honor we properly give to human persons ("honor to whom honor is due") cannot even be compared to God; because even the top person GOD told us to honor (as in "Honor thy Father and thy Mother") is way, way way below the honor we give to God Himself.
I might put one poker chip on top of the "human honor" stack and explain that for most little children, their mother is the top-honor person, but since Jesus' Mother is someone He greatly honored, let's put her on top.
Because God blessed her above all women. Even above Wonder Woman and Melania Trump.
Semiramis is fair game. 😁
In your ‘other religion’ the titles given to the Mary of your religion nullify your specious claim. It is not surprising that you are unable to ‘see’ that for spiritual things are discerned by the spirit, THE ALIVE spirit.
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