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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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To: ealgeone
You don’t even believe the basic promise of Christ when He says you can have eternal life. The concept of the Trinity is way beyond you.

Please stop projecting I certainly do believe in the basic promise of Christ when He says you can have eternal life.

The concept of the Trinity is way beyond you.

Admittedly, my finite mind cannot fully understand or explain this mystery of God (to borrow a quote from the Billy Graham EA), but I definitely believe in this most fundamental doctrine of the Catholic faith.

401 posted on 06/17/2019 6:44:15 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

The LCMS is a strong biblically based church. But just because a church is or is not in full communion with another does not mean we think their members are not saved. We expect to see each other in Heaven. We just have doctrinal differences such that we do not share pulpits and communion rails with each other. I have doctrinal differences with most of the Protestants on this board. HOWEVER we all agree that salvation is only by grace through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ not by works. We all agree that Scripture alone is the final authority on all matters pertaining to faith. We all share the assurance of salvation and are happy to call each other brother and sister in Christ. What we have in common is more important than what we do not.


402 posted on 06/17/2019 6:45:12 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ealgeone

Show me where Scripture says we can know the status of someone else’s salvation based on a single thing the say when you don’t know, and can’t know, if they truly believe what they’ve said. I’m still waiting.


403 posted on 06/17/2019 6:45:40 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Mrs. Don-o
--- and you can look it up.

Honey; I have.

And I post regularly what Rome ALLOWS people to believe about the apparition that is called "Mary".

It is this FAILURE to refute the GODESSness of "Mary" that is the DAMNING feature of Rome 'not' teaching otherwise.

404 posted on 06/17/2019 6:51:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
--- and you can look it up.

Honey; I have.

And I post regularly what Rome ALLOWS people to believe about the apparition that is called "Mary".

It is this FAILURE to refute the GODESSness of "Mary" that is the DAMNING feature of Rome 'not' teaching otherwise.

405 posted on 06/17/2019 6:51:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD
We just have doctrinal differences such that we do not share pulpits and communion rails with each other.

Thanks, that's the point I was making in response to someone's claim that Protestant churches are in communion with each other even though there are doctrinal differences.

406 posted on 06/17/2019 6:52:44 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He does not NEED His mother ….

Do you?

Does ANY Catholic 'need' Mary?

I've NEVER seen any Catholic in these threads denounce Mariology: excessive or otherwise.


You've managed to type a LOT of stuff about JESUS in this reply without mentioning 'Mary' at all.

Why doesn't your PRACTICE of Catholicism do the same?

Try praying your rosary without saying Hail Mary; Mother of GOD ...

Then get back to us about the taste in your mouth that appears.

407 posted on 06/17/2019 6:56:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan

did you read the rest of the post? what unites us is more important than what separates us as protestants


408 posted on 06/17/2019 6:58:12 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Al Hitan
The Catholics have unity in the dogma of the faith.

And they all love their current pope; too.

409 posted on 06/17/2019 6:58:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL


410 posted on 06/17/2019 7:01:45 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
did you read the rest of the post? what unites us is more important than what separates us as protestants

Yes, I read it.

411 posted on 06/17/2019 7:01:46 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
...your lame attacks on the Church aren't doing anything to make the case for Sola Scripture …

Al; I posted a multi-page spread of Scripture pointing out the WRITTEN Word.

When are you; or any FR Catholic; going to create a list of the times that "tradition" is found to be a POSITIVE thing in Christianity?

412 posted on 06/17/2019 7:02:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
And they all love their current pope; too.

I'm sure there are who some don't love him.

413 posted on 06/17/2019 7:03:11 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
They have differences in doctrine.

Why?

Which is "wrong"?

414 posted on 06/17/2019 7:03:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
I am referring to the Catholics in communion under the Pope. Get it?

What I get is that so many of you Catholics do NOT even want to be 'in communion' with your OWN pope!

415 posted on 06/17/2019 7:04:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
you’re telling me that the direct, infallable Word of God is NOT true

Make up what you will. I can't stop you.


Only ONE verse is not true:

Call no man father.


416 posted on 06/17/2019 7:06:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Al; I posted a multi-page spread of Scripture pointing out the WRITTEN Word.

Hurray for you.

When are you; or any FR Catholic; going to create a list of the times that "tradition" is found to be a POSITIVE thing in Christianity?

I don't know who has the time to compile that lengthy list.

417 posted on 06/17/2019 7:07:59 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
We don't trust your distortion of the meaning of the words of the Son.

I hear ya: Call no man father.

That about as distorted as we Prots can get.

418 posted on 06/17/2019 7:08:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Huh?

Happy Unneeded Mothers' Day!

419 posted on 06/17/2019 7:08:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Al Hitan

You speak for non-Catholics now? Based on what?

Catholics are the most divisive group of Christianity going.

They will do and say anything to drive a wedge between other believers.


420 posted on 06/17/2019 7:09:27 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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