Truly.
Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
Maybe they figured it out, but maybe they haven't learned. I think the growing division and splits demonstrates they haven't.
As for claiming what catholics teach or believe, we have used your words or official documents for evidence and you still state we don’t know what you believe.
That's good. But as often demonstrated on FreeRepublic many don't know as much about the Church as they put on.
You fromans are arguing with your own church and members, not us.
What are you talking about? There is plenty of Protestant-Catholic argument. Try reading through some of the comments on FR. As far as Catholics arguing among ourselves about the Church, we always have and always will, until the end.
So much for unity....
Truly.
Yes, Lord and God are two different words but they can be taken to mean the same thing. E.g., we refer to Jesus, who is God, as Lord.
Looking at Luke 1:28 we again see the use of the word Lord (kurios): “And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord (kurios)is with thee: blessed art thou among women.”
The angel's reference to 'Lord' in Luke 1:28 is to mean God.
The link you posted is a perfect match to what Protestants believe and the exact opposite of what Catholics believe according to your own CCC.
Now stop blaspheming and telling falsehoods about non-Catholics.
X
That's your opinion. Other Fromans have said differently.
So that means that the EO are going to hell unless they knuckle under Rome?
I get it.
I get that Catholics will excuse the very thing in the selves that they condemn in others.
you are the one that was outlining all the catholic variations. i see no difference
Catholicism demands that one agree lockstep with every last bit of their doctrine or go to hell and non-Romans recognize that there are legitimate differences in opinion on some issues that do not affect ones salvation.
Paul refers to them as *disputable matters* and makes allowance for it.
Romans 14:1-9 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
So we can recognize each other as brothers and sisters in Christ, and recognize that we are heaven bound because of the trust we have put in Jesus for our salvation, and be what RC'S call *be in communion with each other* although there are still some doctrinal issues.
Clearly, though, since Paul equates all the rules and regulations and don't's to be a sign of weak faith, Catholicism is found to be a religious system of very weak faith as it cannot tolerate any dissent from the party line dictated from Rome.
Cop out answer.
Tell us what official Roman teaching is on the matter.
And they are still not in communion by your own words.
Nonsense.
Thaty's just an excuse and justification to make the passage say something it doesn't.
The phrase *mother of God* does not show up ANYWHERE in the Bible. Catholicism made it up.
Live with it.
Exactly untrue. Here is an excerpt from another Orthodox link to further illustrate:
A Protestant told me that just believing in Jesus is enough to get one into heaven. This isn’t what I was taught, or is my memory incorrect? Please clarify this. These born-again Christians can be very insulting to us.
Answer
Orthodox Christianity teaches that belief in Jesus must be combined with putting that belief into action—feeding the hungry, ministering to others, etc. Both essential.
We read in the epistles: “Faith without works is dead.”
One can indeed “believe” in Christ and yet lead a life that betrays that belief. Hence belief alone is not sufficient. “Not all who say ‘Lord, Lord’ will have a place in my Kingdom.”
And another Greek Orthodox link explaining. These all are in agreement with Catholic teaching.
Those are your words.
I get that Catholics will excuse the very thing in the selves that they condemn in others.
Contrarily, the Catholic Church is not pleased with the differences in doctrine with the Orthodox and are working to resolve them. We've been through all this before, but I guess you've slept since then.
Very true, but that does not negate the fact that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches are much closer on doctrine than are the Protestants and Orthodox. So, the Protestants should quit pretending they are.
I did.
Prove it.
That's correct. All the various churches within the Catholic Church have the same set of dogma.
the why the different denominations. you try to have it both ways but it doesn’t fool anyone
"The teaching of the New Testament is that God’s grace, our free will, and our faith and good works, are intimately connected. The Holy Spirit energizes in us both faith and good works as we thirst for and seek God’s grace. Neither faith nor good works can be presented as merit before God, but only as return gifts in humility, love, and thanksgiving. "
Here's what the CCC says. "Moved by the Holy Spirit, we can merit for ourselves and for others all the graces needed to attain eternal life"
Now that you've been caught in a falsehood that shows either you didn't actually read what you tried to cite, OR shows your ignorance about your own claimed religion...
Well, who cares what you have to say? You've been shown to peddle falsehoods.
(Oh, and good job on believing the obvious lies about what Protestants believe; you must be exceptionally gullible)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.