Posted on 05/15/2018 7:39:05 PM PDT by marshmallow
His comments come as debate over Communion for Protestants intensifies
The President of Germany has called for the Catholic Church to allow Protestants to receive Communion.
Speaking at Katholikentag, a major conference for German-speaking Catholics in Münster, Frank-Walter Steinmeier said: “Let us seek ways of expressing the common Christian faith by sharing in the Last Supper and Communion. I am sure: Thousands of Christians in interdenominational marriages are hoping for this.”
Steinmeier said he was speaking “not as Federal President, but as an avowed Evangelical Christian who lives in an interdenominational marriage.”
He also criticised the Bavarian government’s decision to hang crosses in public buildings, saying the state should not “patronise” religion.
His words came after the Vatican failed to rule on whether a proposal by German bishops to allow Protestants married to Catholics to receive Communion under certain circumstances violated Church teaching. Seven German bishops, including Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne, had challenged the proposal and asked the Vatican to intervene, but Pope Francis urged the bishops to come to an agreement amongst themselves.
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Government should not patronize religion? What else is that religion tax in Germany other than government patronizing and controling religion?
Also as a Christian I have no use for Catholic rituals. Good for them keeping their own memory of Christ alive in their own ways, I have my own ways with Christ.
Who is he to dictate rituals and beliefs?
Catholic Eucharist requires certain beliefs not shared by Protestants
No thanks
However, I also think in general we have made it too easy for Christians to receive Communion every week without truly confessing of their sins, being in a state of grace and loving their neighbors. Even in my own church (Episcopal), I don't always go to receive Communion. If you are attending church and worshiping the Lord through word and song, and receiving blessing (everyone who comes to church does receive a blessing from the minister, usually pronounced at the conclusion of the service) you have already been given a great gift from God. That's why I don't buy these arguments from other protestants about receiving communion in other churches. The sacrament is a glorious thing, but going to church to offer your love the Lord is the first and greatest commandment.
A politician should shut his trap. This is from someone whose denomination shares the Eucharist with all believing Christians, in a church where a sizable number of congregants were baptized as Catholics, and who would like the RCC to accept us. For all the Western faithful she’s the Mother Church. But it’s not up to me either and I accept their rules.
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? (2 Corinthians 6:14,15)
Well, if Pope Francis won't dictate the rituals and beliefs on receiving Holy Communion to his apostate German bishops, I guess it's up to the president of Germany to do so.
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“Communion” is an invention of men, and nowheres to be found in the Word of Yehova.
So let them do with it what they will.
Yeshua’s “Last Supper” was not “Communion,” it was a traditional Hebrew daily meal. Wine and a barley loaf.
Yeshua’s commandment to his disciples was that each time that they consume such a meal, they do so in remembrance of him. He didn’t say to do it at any special time or place, and he commanded no ‘priest’ to speak any incantation.
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I take it you’re not Catholic?
The books of the New Testament did not record, verbatim, everything that Christ ever said. Some things were so obvious no one would have thought them worth mentioning. The Mass, handed down as a tradition given to us by the 12 disciples and the other contemporary disciples, family and followers of Jesus, was such an example.
In fact, the celebration of the Eucharist was documented by St. Paul before any of the books of the Gospel were compiled.
So now Protestants are an aggrieved group because they cannot receive Communion in a Catholic Church? Or is it just the President of Germany looking for a way to create another “minority group” in SJW fashion?
It has been said that many rituals of the Mass date from early worship rituals in the time of Christ’s own temples and synagogues
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“The mass” is a war against Yeshua and everything he taught.
His disciples and apostles preached against such witchcraft.
His disciples and apostles _created_ the Mass and led the first Christians in celebrating it. You need to read up a bit more on the history of the early Church. If you think you know more about Jesus and his intent than the apostles...
From my memories of serving in the US Army in Germany and talking with my German landlord, the German government does not tax the churches. It provides a subsidy to churches out of the general tax revenues.
Your comment on government control via those subsidies is a valid concern/issue.
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Satan’s disciples and apostles _created_ the Mass and led the first “Christians” in celebrating it in the 4th century.
Yeshua’s sheep were never called “Christians,” they were known as the “Notzerim.” (followers of the Netzer that was born in Bethlehem)
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Are you honestly saying that early Christians did not celebrate Mass until the 4th Century? That the leaders of the Church, by that time, were all serving Satan?
As an FYI, of course, the celebration of the Eucharist was universally formalized _because_ it was obviously being celebrated throughout the Mediterranean prior to that by the followers of Jesus Christ (using whatever term/label with which you wish to refer to them).
So tell us, at what point in history did the devil overthrow Petrine authority? Since you seem to be the only one who knows what Christ intended, it would be interesting to learn when the last legitimate Christians were... before you came along, of course.
It does tax individuals according to their religion. If Catholic you pay your catholic tithe through that tax
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