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To: ealgeone
Their example is a good one for all to follow.

... they received the word with great eagerness,...


    Not necessarily;
  1. It is not an example for Christians to follow, but rather Jews who do not yet believe. The Messiah send the Apostle(s) to evangelize the Bereans (who were Jews, not Christians). They did not need to fact check the Apostles, except out of their own ignorance, weakness, and lack of spiritual discernment. Of course it was better for those Jews that they were willing to listen and compare what the Apostle(s) taught than to reject that teaching out of hand. They were more noble than the Jews in Thessaloniki, although some Jews in Thessaloniki also believed, as did some Jews in Berea.
  2. It seems to me that the net result of trying to apply the Berean model to Christians is that there are thousands of different denominations, sects, or faith communities that do not agree on what the scriptures mean after they have searched the scriptures. Instead, there are millions of individuals who cannot even agree with a faith community and are their own authority for matters of faith and doctrine. This disunity is incongruent with the Messiah's teaching and prayer to the Father for all believers to be one.
  3. Receiving the word with great eagerness is not enough.


It is better to keep the word and bring forth fruit.

And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable: A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it. And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be? And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

Luke, Catholic chapter eight, Protestant verses four to fifteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

115 posted on 01/07/2018 5:20:37 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
It seems to me that the net result of trying to apply the Berean model to Christians is that there are thousands of different denominations, sects, or faith communities that do not agree on what the scriptures mean after they have searched the scriptures.

Well, the first step is you have to search the Scriptures. There are some who do not read the Scriptures. It was only in the last century that Roman Catholics were encouraged to read the Scriptures.

Having a working background of the New Testament period is beneficial.

I would also strongly say that a working knowledge of the original languages is key to a proper understanding of the texts. This is where I see a huge failure of Roman Catholicism....and I will say most denominations. IIRC, the appeal to the original languages was a precursor to the Reformation.

I'm reading various passages in Romans based on the Greek. When one reads them with the Greek understanding it brings into clarity why Paul said it is by faith that we come to Christ. I can understand why Luther said it was by faith alone that we come to Christ...though he wasn't the only one.

Also, context is another key concept that is crucial to properly understanding the Scriptures.

If those, combined with prayer, are applied to a faithful study of the Scriptures, I betcha there will be more agreement than disagreement.

132 posted on 01/07/2018 5:44:57 PM PST by ealgeone
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