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To: ealgeone
You must not read the threads too often on how the canon of the OT and NT were formed and which books should be in each.

The only part of the Bible written by G-d Himself rather than inspired people is the Torah. The Torah never had to be canonized by a human authority.

The Prophets and Hagiographa, however, were canonized by the 'Anshei HaKeneset HaGedolah (the Men of the Great Assembly). They then closed the canon of scripture, but chrstianity added more books. The "new testament" was canonized by the churches.

Personally I have an excellent book on the history of the formation of the canon....The Canon of Scripture by F.F. Bruce.

Not interested in the canon of a false religion.

The very group you criticize is the first one to admit the Scriptures are inspired by God...not a church. That's the position of the Roman Catholics.

And the Eastern Orthodox, and the Miaphysites, and the Nestorians. Unfortunately, you're very naive about chrstian history. The ancient churches everywhere had a priesthood, sacraments, monks, prayers to saints, etc. To reject them is to reject authentic historical chrstianity. I don't criticize you for doing this. I criticize you for turning to an a-historical made-up religion that never existed in the ancient world instead of merely accepting the Noachide Laws.

The Armenian Church became the state church of Armenia years before Constantine. The Ethiopian Church was the next church to be an official state church. Even the ancient churches of Kerala state in India, which claim to have been founded by the apostle Thomas were also not Protestant. When they were discovered by the western world in 1599 they had priests, "the holy sacrifice," praying to saints, etc. All that stuff you claim Constantine invented out of whole cloth in 313. I'm sorry. You're mistaken.

The ancient churches don't claim their canons were "inspired" by their churches, but merely canonized (that these same ancient churches are now all higher critics and evolutionists is quite maddening). The Great Assembly did not inspire the Prophets and Hagriographa, but decided the canon. There was much objection to Ezekiel and Esther, but the fact that they are accepted today (by you among others) shows you accept the decision of the Great Assembly. The Torah, on the other hand, was written directly by G-d and has never had to be canonized by a human authority. That's one reason it is the highest revelation that has ever existed.

946 posted on 12/05/2017 5:21:26 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; ealgeone
The only part of the Bible written by G-d Himself rather than inspired people is the Torah.

You know this how?

955 posted on 12/05/2017 6:04:55 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
And the Eastern Orthodox, and the Miaphysites, and the Nestorians. Unfortunately, you're very naive about chrstian history. The ancient churches everywhere had a priesthood, sacraments, monks, prayers to saints, etc. To reject them is to reject authentic historical chrstianity. I don't criticize you for doing this. I criticize you for turning to an a-historical made-up religion that never existed in the ancient world instead of merely accepting the Noachide Laws.

Here you are criticizing me for rejecting what you determine to be history....yet you reject the most attested to event in ancient history....the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

You may not recognize Him as Savior...now. That's your call to do so.

However, to deny faith in Him is an eternally bad decision.

10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:10-11 NASB

957 posted on 12/05/2017 6:14:08 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> The only part of the Bible written by G-d Himself rather than inspired people is the Torah. The Torah never had to be canonized by a human authority.

I have read the Five Books of Moses with Rashi’s commentary. But I do not learn the Written Torah. Gentiles do not have a Divine commandment of learning Torah, but this is rather an obligation that is included in the seven commandments themselves. It is obligatory for a Gentile to learn the seven commandments. We are permitted to learn them even in a way of delving into them, meaning deeply learning to understand the details within the Noahide Code.


961 posted on 12/05/2017 7:29:20 PM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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