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To: Zionist Conspirator
American Evangelical Protestants believe in chrstianity because "the bible" (ie, their Protestant bible) tells them to. They never question how their bible was assembled. They literally assume it is self-evidently true and self-authenticating, and so long as their Protestant bible contains a "new testament" they will never question its validity. Until they learn that it is G-d Who authorizes the Bible and not the other way around, they are hopeless.

You must not read the threads too often on how the canon of the OT and NT were formed and which books should be in each.

Personally I have an excellent book on the history of the formation of the canon....The Canon of Scripture by F.F. Bruce.

The very group you criticize is the first one to admit the Scriptures are inspired by God...not a church. That's the position of the Roman Catholics.

940 posted on 12/05/2017 3:25:37 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
This oral placemaker --> X <-- can not be found in Scripture, but rests entirely on tradition that can not be proven.
941 posted on 12/05/2017 3:51:46 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ealgeone; aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212
Thanks bro. I think back in the 70s, I read Evidence That Demands a Verdict, and More Evidence. Written by one Josh McDowell. I think he has one now called New Evidence.
If I have it right, the Noahdites only accept a few Old Testament books, and don’t accept the rest. Well, Josh set out to disprove the entire Bible, but when researching the evidence, later became a born again believer in Jesus Christ. The evidence was too overwhelming for him. If I recall, he said there is far more evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ, than there is that the Trojan War ever even happened.
The Noahdites don’t spend their time checking evidence. They spend their time ignoring the evidence. Why sugar coat it? Jesus didn’t. It’s just another, in a long line, of false religions, that will lead them to the Great White Throne Judgement. Can you imagine false religionists trying to tell God they didn’t believe in the reality of the Great White Throne. What a spectacle that will be.
I hope they have their come to Jesus moment, but I think more Muslims do, than this group. I know some ex Muslims personally.
Now my favorite: Remember the men of Ninevah and the Queen of Sheba. 😇👋
943 posted on 12/05/2017 4:40:25 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ealgeone
You must not read the threads too often on how the canon of the OT and NT were formed and which books should be in each.

The only part of the Bible written by G-d Himself rather than inspired people is the Torah. The Torah never had to be canonized by a human authority.

The Prophets and Hagiographa, however, were canonized by the 'Anshei HaKeneset HaGedolah (the Men of the Great Assembly). They then closed the canon of scripture, but chrstianity added more books. The "new testament" was canonized by the churches.

Personally I have an excellent book on the history of the formation of the canon....The Canon of Scripture by F.F. Bruce.

Not interested in the canon of a false religion.

The very group you criticize is the first one to admit the Scriptures are inspired by God...not a church. That's the position of the Roman Catholics.

And the Eastern Orthodox, and the Miaphysites, and the Nestorians. Unfortunately, you're very naive about chrstian history. The ancient churches everywhere had a priesthood, sacraments, monks, prayers to saints, etc. To reject them is to reject authentic historical chrstianity. I don't criticize you for doing this. I criticize you for turning to an a-historical made-up religion that never existed in the ancient world instead of merely accepting the Noachide Laws.

The Armenian Church became the state church of Armenia years before Constantine. The Ethiopian Church was the next church to be an official state church. Even the ancient churches of Kerala state in India, which claim to have been founded by the apostle Thomas were also not Protestant. When they were discovered by the western world in 1599 they had priests, "the holy sacrifice," praying to saints, etc. All that stuff you claim Constantine invented out of whole cloth in 313. I'm sorry. You're mistaken.

The ancient churches don't claim their canons were "inspired" by their churches, but merely canonized (that these same ancient churches are now all higher critics and evolutionists is quite maddening). The Great Assembly did not inspire the Prophets and Hagriographa, but decided the canon. There was much objection to Ezekiel and Esther, but the fact that they are accepted today (by you among others) shows you accept the decision of the Great Assembly. The Torah, on the other hand, was written directly by G-d and has never had to be canonized by a human authority. That's one reason it is the highest revelation that has ever existed.

946 posted on 12/05/2017 5:21:26 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: ealgeone

The assembly of the Bible is not the issue.

That what the Bible contains or is comprised of Scripture is what’s important.


953 posted on 12/05/2017 5:59:41 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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