“Your post illustrates why I came up with the Rules.”
Your post illustrates that you will not address any of the points made. You really can’t. You didn’t read post #430 did you? You really didn’t know that aMorePerfectUnion was mocking a book of the Bible by calling it “Siracha sauce”, right?
Yeah, that’s obvious.
“I think this post touches on all of them. Have a good one vlad.”
And your response - ignoring the points I made - shows exactly what I have said about you: You do not care about getting things right. You do not care about the truth.
You mock the Lord Christ. When you add anything to the Gospel of Grace, you mock Jesus. Go put some ice on your wounded ego, Laddy Vladdi.
Your post illustrates that you will not address any of the points made. You really can’t. You didn’t read post #430 did you? You really didn’t know that aMorePerfectUnion was mocking a book of the Bible by calling it “Siracha sauce”, right?
I've dealt with the primary issue which is why the RCC when they are teaching new Catholics the Ten Commandments, or discussing the Ten Commandments, deletes the prohibition on idols and serving them or bowing before them in their Traditional Catechetical Formula.
I think if Roman Catholics really read and understood all of Exodus 20 they would see their idolatry involving Mary, their pledges of devoting all of themselves to her without reservation, bowing before the idols of her, etc, violates the Commandment to Love the Lord Your God with all your heart, soul, mind and body.
It also violates this from Exodus:
4“You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5“You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Exodus 20:4-6 NASB
Roman Catholics both worship and serve Mary by their actions. They may not admit it but Christians recognize the Roman Catholic actions as being against Scripture.
| Consecration to Mary | Greatest Commandment from the Bible |
| My Queen and my Mother, I give myself entirely to you; and to show my devotion to you, I consecrate to you this day my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am your own, keep me, guard me, as your property and possession. Amen. |
37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38“This is the great and foremost commandment. Matthew 22:37-28 NASB |
The Greatest Commandment leaves no room for what Roman Catholicism teaches regarding "devotion" to Mary.
Further, the NT is clear it is God Who keeps us and that is Who we are to make our appeal to and place our trust in.
31What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36Just as it is written, “FOR YOUR SAKE WE ARE BEING PUT TO DEATH ALL DAY LONG; WE WERE CONSIDERED AS SHEEP TO BE SLAUGHTERED.” 37But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:31-39 NASB
Paul makes no allowance for Mary in this.
The rest of the debate is meaningless as that is the primary issue at hand.
If however, as you will undoubtedly claim you do not worship Mary, will you:
throw away your "statues" of Mary?
cease to kneel before any statue of Mary and pray to the image it represents?
cease praying to Mary and direct your prayers to God alone as noted in the New Testament?
Unless the Roman Catholic is willing to answer in the affirmative the only conclusion that may be drawn is they wish to continue in their worship of Mary in defiance of what is revealed in Scripture.