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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^
| November 28, 2017
| Julia Meloni
Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
The reality of the apostasy of faith in our time rightly and profoundly frightens us, said Cardinal Burke in honor of Fatimas centenary.
In 1903, Pope St. Pius X declared himself terrified by humanitys self-destructive apostasy from God: For behold they that go far from Thee shall perish (Ps. 72:27). How much more daunting, said Cardinal Burke, is todays widespread apostasy.
In 1910, St. Pius X condemned the movement for a One-World Church without dogmas, hierarchy, or curb for the passionsa church which, under the pretext of freedom, would impose legalized cunning and force. How much more, said Cardinal Burke, do todays movements for a single government of the world and certain movements with the Church herself disregard sin and salvation?
In Pascendi, St. Pius X named the trajectory toward the annihilation of all religion: The first step
was taken by Protestantism; the second
by [the heresy of] Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.
So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatimas call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be agents of the triumph of Marys Immaculate Heart.
A few weeks after that speech, the Vatican announced its shining tribute to the Protestant revolution: a golden stamp with Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the cross, triumphantly supplanting the Blessed Virgin and St. John.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has asked how the Vatican can call Luther a witness to the gospel when he called the Mass
a blasphemy and the papacy an invention of Satan. The signatories of the filial correction have expressed wonderment and sorrow at a statue of Luther in the Vaticanand documented the affinity between Luthers ideas on law, justification, and marriage and Pope Franciss statements.
At a 2016 joint commemoration of the Protestant revolution, Pope Francis expressed joy for its myriad gifts. He and pro-abortion Lutherans with female clergy jointly declared that what unites us is greater than what divides us. Together they raise[d] their voices against violence. They prayed for the conversion of those who exploit the earth. They declared the goal of receiving the Eucharist at one table to express their full unity.
In Martin Luther: An Ecumenical Perspective, Cardinal Kasper confirms that the excommunicated, apostate monk is now a common church father, a new St. Francis of Assisi. This prophet of the new evangelization was forced into calling the pope the Antichrist after his call for repentance was not heard. But Kasper finds ecumenical hope in Luthers statement that he would
kiss the feet of a pope who allows and acknowledges his gospel.
Kasper says Pope Franciss Evangelii Gaudium, without mentioning him by name, makes Luthers concerns stand in the center.
So its Luthers gospel of grace and mercy behind, apparently, the high disdain for self-absorbed promethean neopelagianis[ts] plagued by a soundness of doctrine thats narcissistic and authoritarian (EG 94).
So its Lutherthe bizarre protagonist of ecumenical unitybehind the demand for a conversion of the papacy that gives genuine doctrinal authority to episcopal conferences (EG 32). Sandro Magister says the pope is already creating a federation of national Churches endowed with extensive autonomy through liturgical decentralization.
So its Luther behind the demand to accept the unruly freedom of the word, which accomplishes what it wills in ways that surpass our
ways of thinking (EG 22). Kasper says Luthers faith in the self-implementation of the word of God gave him a heroic openness to the future.
Ultimately, Kaspers Luthera prophet of openness to futurity, a Catholic reformer waiting for a sympathetic popeemerges as a symbolic father for Modernisms struggle to change the Church from within. Modernism falsely claims that God evolves with historymaking truth utterly mutable. So Kasper the Modernist says dogmas can be stupid and Church structures can spring from ideology and denying the Eucharist to adulterers because of one phrase from Christ is ideological, too.
Kasper baldly calls the changeless God an offense to man:
One must deny him for mans sake, because he claims for himself the dignity and honor that belong by right to man
.
We must resist this God
also for Gods sake. He is not the true God at all, but rather a wretched idol. For a God
who is not himself history is a finite God. If we call such a being God, then for the sake of the Absolute we must become absolute atheists. Such a God springs from a rigid worldview; he is the guarantor of the status quo and the enemy of the new.
A shocking ultimatum from the man hailed as the popes theologian: either embrace a mutable God whos not an enemy of the newor profess absolute, unflinching, hardcore atheism.
Kasper says the Church must be led by a spirit that is not primarily the third divine person. That ominous spirit, says Thomas Stark, is apparently some Hegelian agent of creations self-perfection. Pope Francis, against all the sourpusses (EG 85), describes our final cause as the utopian future (EG 222). Because God wants us to be happy in this world, its no longer possible to claim that religion
exists only to prepare souls for heaven (EG 182).
But Christ said, In the world you shall have distress (Jn. 16:33). The 1907 dystopian novel The Lord of the World hauntingly imagines the travails of historys last days, when humanity has heeded Kaspers call to resist God with absolute atheism if necessary. By this point, Protestantism is dead, for men recognize at last that a supernatural religion involves an absolute authority. Those with any supernatural belief left are Catholicpersecuted by a world professing no God but man, no priest but the politician.
More and more clergy apostatize. Man has learned his own divinity. Yet Fr. Percy Franklin still adores the Eucharistic Lord, still believes that the reconciling of a soul to God is greater than the reconciling of nations. He secretly hears a dying womans confession before the real prieststhe euthanizerscome.
Her daughter-in-law, Mabel, scoffs that the new atheism has perfected Catholicism:
Do you not understand that all which Jesus Christ promised has come true, though in another way? The reign of God has really begun; but we know now who God is. You said just now you wanted the forgiveness of Sins; well, you have that; we all have it, because there is no such thing as sin. There is only Crime.
And then Communion. You used to believe that that made you a partaker of God; well, we are all partakers of God, because we are all human beings.
Mabel and the rapt multitudes ritually worship Man. God was a hideous nightmare. Their spirits swoon before a politician promising the universal brotherhood of man.
That savior of the world is the Antichrist. All must deny God or die.
For history, like the novel itself, ends not with rapturous utopia but with tribulation, apostasy, martyrdoms, and Gods triumph over the revolt of evil [in] the form of the Last Judgment (CCC 677). In the throes of his own tribulation, Fr. Franklin calls us to cling to the faith and those refuges of old:
The mass, prayer, the rosary. These first and last. The world denies their power: it is on their power that Christians must throw all their weight.
TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; oneworldchurch
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To: grey_whiskers
... less risky to throw out ALL traditions and reports of visions or visitations, and much of the accrued practices and devotional artwork, in addition to the formalism and (for a time) administrative overhead. Golly!
I wonder why??
Hebrews 12:1 ... let us throw off everything that hinders ...
781
posted on
12/03/2017 3:40:13 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: grey_whiskers
... asking a fellow believer to pray for you, especially (ahem) a *saint*, is not going to open you to demonic influence. Did you miss the DEAD part?
782
posted on
12/03/2017 3:41:23 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mark17
Dang!
I seem to be one-two-three posts behind when butting into someone else’s conversation.
783
posted on
12/03/2017 3:42:48 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
> Just how patient IS God?
There is no true recognition without thought and meditation, and true meditation brings true emotions into the heart, and proper intentions for proper actions. Gentiles are commanded to fear G-d. If you fear G-d, you will do what he says.
To: Mark17
That’s a classic defensive stance of cults. They think their beliefs are always under attack.
To: Hrvatski Noahid
G-d revealed Himself to the entire nation of Israel, at least three million people, at Mount Sinai in 1312 B.C.E. That is the basis of my religion.
No, I meant your claims of the laws given that do not appear in the text of the passage you referenced.
Your religion has a foundation that is made up, unless you are wrong about the passage.
To: aMorePerfectUnion
The derivation from Genesis 2:16 is correct. But it is not the only one:
Five of the Noahide Commandments are explicitly found in different verses in the Book of Genesis, and one is found in Leviticus. The remaining one (and in fact all them) can be inferred from a single verse in Genesis.
1. Do Not Worship a False Deity
Genesis 2:16 states: And L-rd G-d commanded to the man, saying
This Divine command to Adam implies that only the One True G-d, the Creator of the spiritual and physical realms, should be obeyed and honored as the Deity, and the greatest honor is to serve and worship Him. Thus, one should serve and worship only the One True G-d, and not any idol.
2. Do Not Commit Blasphemy
Leviticus 24:10-17 relates the incident of a Jew who violated the injunction of Exodus 22:27 and blasphemed in anger. Moreover, it states in Leviticus 24:15, ish ish (any man) who curses his G-d shall bear his sin. Why the double expression of ish ish (literally: a man, a man)? To include all mankind, Jews and Gentiles. This demonstrates that blasphemy thus is prohibited to Gentiles even as it is for Jews.
3. Do Not Commit Murder or Injury
The edict against murder, and the punishment for this transgression, is stated in Genesis 9:5-6:
of man for his brother, I [G-d] will demand the soul of man. Whoever sheds the blood of man, among man, his blood shall be shed; for in the image of G-d He made man.
4. Do Not Have Forbidden Sexual Relations
Five of the six types of relations that are forbidden by G-d to Gentiles are covered in Genesis 2:24: Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and cling to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. This verse explicitly forbids relations with ones mother, with a woman who has ever been his fathers domestic partner or certified wife, with a woman who is currently a domestic partner or certified wife of another man, with another male, or with an animal. A Gentile is also forbidden to have relations with his maternal sister, which is learned from Gen. 20:13: Moreover, she is indeed my sister, my fathers daughter, though not my mothers daughter; and she became my wife. (Note that Abraham said this to appease Abimelech. It was actually only figuratively true in his case, since Sarah was the daughter of Abrahams brother. So they had the same paternal grandfather, who people often referred to as father.)
It also was universally accepted that father-daughter relations would be included, as evidenced by the disgrace of Lot after he had relations with his two daughters, following G-ds destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen. 19:29-36, and Rashis explanation of Gen. 20:1). Relations of a female with a female are likewise an abomination to G-d which is included as one of the subjects of the verse Lev. 18:3, which speaks against the immoral practices of the ancient Egyptians and Canaanites, and which Lev.18:30 refers to as abominable traditions. About these, the Midrash (Sifra) specifies: A man would marry a man, a woman would marry a woman, and a woman would be married to two men.
5. Do Not Commit Theft
The prohibition of theft is contained within the permission which G-d granted to Adam and Hava (Eve) in Genesis 2:16 to eat from the trees of the garden. This implies that if the permission had not been granted, they would have been forbidden to do so, because the property did not belong to them. This applied specifically to the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil which was forbidden for them to take, under penalty of death (Genesis 2:17). This Noahide commandment was cited explicitly by Abraham in Genesis 21:25.
6. Dont Eat Meat that was Taken from a Live Animal
Adam and Hava (Eve) were not given permission to kill animals for food, and this remained in effect until after the Flood. G-d permitted the eating of meat for the first time to Noah and his family after they left the Ark, which is why G-d at that time added the seventh commandment, which prohibits the eating of meat that was severed from a living animal (even if it was stunned and insensitive). This commandment given to Noah is recorded in Genesis 9:4: But meat, with its soul [which is in] its blood you shall not eat.
7. Establish Laws and Courts of Justice
G-d commanded Noah regarding the trial and punishment of a murderer, as it says in Genesis 9:6, Whoever sheds the blood of man, among man, his blood shall be shed
This refers to a Noahide commandment to judge and penalize a murderer.This is explained as follows by the Talmudic Sages: Whoever sheds the blood of man (referring to the murderer), among man (i.e., he is to be prosecuted in a court by a man who is qualified to testify as a witness), his blood shall be shed (if convicted, he is liable to capital punishment by the court). The Noahide Code specifies that Gentile societies are obligated to abide by justice through establishing a system of righteous courts of law.
https://asknoah.org/7-commandments/locate-sources
To: grey_whiskers
I was mulling it over.
I still haven't decided where I stand on it. The *least affirmative* thing I can say, is that much of the "extra biblical" has proved over time to be tremendously helpful to a great many believers.
I'd say more from a broader perspective, but there are strong biblical injunctions against offending against someone whose faith is weak -- which in this case could go in *either* direction.
788
posted on
12/03/2017 5:50:44 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Elsie
In that they are following the biblical commands to "prove all things" and "believe not every spirit, for many spirits are gone out into the world."
That's fine.
789
posted on
12/03/2017 5:53:31 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Elsie
"He is not the God of the dead, but of the living."
"This day you shall be with Me in paradise." <-- said to a convicted felon during his execution. How much more will saints be there?
790
posted on
12/03/2017 6:34:18 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: vladimir998
791
posted on
12/03/2017 7:34:22 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: Elsie; Hrvatski Noahid
If he finds that he acted wrongly, then he should change his ways and conduct, and he should accept upon himself that henceforth he will act in the correct way, and he will stop...
But what if he does it again?
And again??
...and again???
Just how patient IS God?
That's why there's this thing called "repentance."
HrvatskiNoahid: Elsie is making an argument based on the worldview of American-style Evangelical Protestantism, which you are probably not familiar with. It is the same argument they use against other chrstian religions.
792
posted on
12/03/2017 7:42:24 AM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
(Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
To: grey_whiskers
Have you considered that the ‘so great cloud of witnesses’ are angels?
793
posted on
12/03/2017 7:43:58 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: grey_whiskers
Syephen prayed to The One Who is alive forever more, the ONLY mediator between man and God. Not conflating, though your reasoning may see it that way ... the exclusionary fallacy, maybe?
794
posted on
12/03/2017 7:47:41 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: MHGinTN
“Have you ever been diagnosed with Asbergers? “
No. Is this your latest tact to avoid dealing with posts? Really? Maybe you suffer from a form of Taijin Kyofusho. Please get that checked.
795
posted on
12/03/2017 7:51:52 AM PST
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: Zionist Conspirator
> Elsie is making an argument based on the worldview of American-style Evangelical Protestantism, which you are probably not familiar with. It is the same argument they use against other chrstian religions.
Thanks for the explanation. I use Torah arguments. Other arguments do not impress me.
To: Hrvatski Noahid
Thank you for taking the time and putting forth the effort to post those references.
797
posted on
12/03/2017 8:09:00 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: vladimir998
;^) is that Klingon?
798
posted on
12/03/2017 8:11:56 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: MHGinTN
> Thank you for taking the time and putting forth the effort to post those references.
No problem.
To: vladimir998
Have you projected??? ‘The causes of this disorder are mainly from emotional trauma or psychological defense mechanism.[3][4] It is more common in men than women.’
800
posted on
12/03/2017 8:15:38 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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