Posted on 06/13/2016 5:31:37 PM PDT by daniel1212
What Christians Should Do in the Wake of Orlando (in response to what the Left says we must do).
Time magazine was quick to employ a homosexual Christian — a contradiction in terms — to tell us "What Christians Must Do in the Wake of Orlando" (http://time.com/4366465/christians-after-orlando), and true to form, it was quick to blame Christians for causing "deep, lasting pain in LGBT people’s lives," even asserting that "Unless you’ve long been a vocal advocate for LGBT people, you’ve likely contributed to that suffering—intentionally or not." (In contrast "gay clubs" were described as providing "a unique place of refuge, comfort and solidarity for LGBT people.") Therefore the first unGodly demand is that Christians are to see themselves guilty of causing justified LGBT anger.
In response we should point out that while the Left portrays the like of Fred Phelps as Christians, yet in contrast those who most strongly oppose homosexual relations typically condemn the likes of Phelps, and instead support deliverance from the destructive homosexual lifestyle. For indeed, for decades the primary agent of premature death of homosexuals has been and is other homosexuals due to their practices.
Meanwhile, if anything, most others who call themselves Christians are too intimidated by the psychological tactics used by the homosexual activists (such as labeling all non-supporters injurious, irrational "homophobic" "haters") to express disapproval of homosexuality, while homosexual activists are even angry at them for not manifestly supporting their agenda.
Secondly, the Time editorialist asks that we remember that the Orlando massacre was not simply gun violence, but was fueled by homophobic hatred, like as anti-Christian animus should be stated as the cause of Christians are being murdered by ISIS. However, we may point out that the author refuses to say that both are fueled by Islamic hatred which resorts to violence. In contrast to which, Christians are to wage war after the Spirit, by prayer, preaching and outreach.
Moreover, if simply opposing a group is that of irrational, iniquitous hatred then homosexuals themselves are guilty of such, as their apparent loathing and hatred of those who oppose their consistent demands for acceptance and affirmation is abundantly manifest. And which includes their wanton unwarranted and provocative use of the term "homophobic." If homosexual activists really believed that all who oppose their agenda or even fail to support it are driven by some irrational fear of them, or that they may be homosexual themselves, then it is they who are possessed by an irrational delusion.
Yet here it should be asked what reaction should be expected if another consensual practice, perhaps taking part in the Lord's Supper, resulted in a greatly increased incidence of infectious diseases and premature death — even well over 600,000 Americans alone — primarily due to male with male sexual relations?
Of course, homosexual relations are wrong even apart from the deleterious physical effects, and its consequences, as with all sin, extended beyond this life and into eternity Thus the Christian response should be, "how can I love by neighbor as myself if I do not warn them of, and help deliver them from, a impenitent practice which will likely send them to an early grave and an eternal Hell?
However, the author lastly says that we are not to express disagreement with same-sex marriage as part of our condemnation of murdered LGBT persons, but that instead we are only to say God loves lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people unconditionally and be committed to making the church the sanctuary it always should have been for them.
Thus once again the homosexual author insists upon only affirmation of homosexuals, with "an openness to learn and grow," while decrying the intolerance of others.
The overall message behind this demonic seduction is that Christians are the ones who are guilty of causing LGBT people to suffer due to their opposition to the homosexual agenda, or even by failing to provide long term support of it, and thus in restitution they must cease from the former and engage in the latter. Failure to do so means one can be condemned with the "homophobic hater" who took it upon himself to slay 50 homosexuals. Which event we can expect will be officially made an annual day of observance.
What then should the Christian Response be in the Wake of Orlando? That of condemning the lawless murder of people by a fundamental Islamist, and emphasize that we seek the deliverance of all souls, and who are all called to repentance and faith in the risen Lord Jesus Christ to save them by His sinless shed blood. Including LGBT people, as homosexual relations are wrong, and are also actually the cause of the most premature deaths to homosexuals overall.
A final word is that any reproof often is met with the assertion that love and forgiveness and "love thy enemy" is contrary to opposing those who impenitently practice sin, and even promote it. And note that the reason the issue of homosexuality attracts so much attention by evangelical types is because it is heavily promoted. If heroin use was also promoted likewise as healthy and normative and on the same scope then it would also attract holy lightening.
And Scripture states:
He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them. (Proverbs 24:24-25)
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:11)
And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee. (Acts 24:25)
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. (Acts 7:53-54)
What is censured is impenitent, self-righteous hypocritical judging and censorious spirit:
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? (Romans 2:3)
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?...Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. (Matthew 7:1,2,5)
Those who invoke Mt. 7:1 to disallow the censure of others are actually being hypocritical, as they are engaging in the very thing they condemn.
I myself would be wrong if i were intent of finding fault with others, and was looking down at others as if i "arrived," as i certainly know i sin in heart and in deed, though i do not want to and am repentant, and I opposed condemning those who are repentant. But that does not mean i cannot condemn something as wrong, as long as I would condemn it if i myself were impenitently engaging in such, and esp. promoting it.
And it is one thing to strive and struggle to live according to God's standards, and another thing to misconstrue the word of God to accommodate your own standards.
Moreover, Scripture also teaches that some sins are worse than others, as can be the degree of guilt of the transgressor.
Therefore not all sins are capital offenses. A thief must make restitution for his theft, and a consensual fornication btwn a unmarried male and female couple required marriage, while a murderer or adulterer must pay with his life,
Another example:
And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; (Genesis 18:20)
The "very great" dominant sin here was not something like failing to build a fence around their flat roofs, (cf. Dt. 22:8) but was manifestly that of the "vile" thing that the men in the parallel account of Judges 19 sought to engage in, that of sexually knowing the strangers, in addition to the accompanying "pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness," and neglect of the needy. (Ezekiel 16:49)
Likewise it is not mere childish strifes that the Lord strongly condemned in His critiques of the churches, (Rv. 2,3) but things such as fornication and idolatry.
Moreover, there are sins of the flesh that a person of otherwise relative good character can struggle with, while the worse sins are those that flow from a evil character in heart:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. (Proverbs 6:17-19)
In addition to the above, the degree of guilt is determined relative to the light and grace one has. The son of a good preacher who engages in premeditated murder is more accountable than one who is raised in a gang.
But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. (Luke 12:48)
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. (Matthew 10:14-15)
Thus the most accountable souls are actually Christians who terminally fall away"
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? (Hebrews 10:26-29)
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. (Hebrews 10:38-39)
ping
More gays have died from Islamic and disease given by fellow gays than from Christians citing Bible verses.
These people will never get it. There is no excuse for such ignorance. They have a target on their back and better wake up to who put it there. It is NOT the Christian right.
The mindset of Lot’s wife (my tag line) is why Christ said about our current lawless days of Sodom. Christians in majority have ignored what Christ said would be. Christians in majority have taken for granted the Heavenly blessings and protection graced this nation. And it has been So called Christians that have helped import non-Christians... What could possibly go wrong? Christians turned their collective backs on the Creator when they allowed secular policies to remove The Commandments from the public square...
Just wait, for what is to come, when the days of Noah begins to be replayed. We have not seen anything .
Hell is not going to be empty. We’ve been told who will be there and why. I never cease to be amazed that Christians won’t do what Christians are told by The Word of the Almighty that they must. The Good News is only good for those who repent and accept Jesus. For those who don’t it’s bad. We’re constrained to tell it nevertheless. Being politicly correct
amounts to wishing evil doers Godspeed. The Word forbids it. Even ministers have stopped warning about the consequences of rejecting The Son, choosing Satan’s original lie instead. “Thou shalt not surely die.” Mercy is not promised to those who reject Christ but rather eternal punishment. The Bible is the ultimate “hate speech” against the evils that are all around us today. I’ll take my chances by following it rather than man made “laws”. I fear Hell more than any earthly prison and The One who can put me there more than any earthly judge.
1 Cor 5 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
Well done.
Execute Muslims, or be executed by them. Those are your choices.
We shall see if the sodomites will learn this fact over the next few months. My hunch is that they won’t, but if they come to their senses I won’t reject potential allies for combating the Islamic virus.
Simple: vote for Trump. Stop the importation of terrorists and catch the ones already here. It is that simple.
Christians don’t have to do anything. They didn’t cause it and they didn’t do it.
Simple.
That is unlikely to happen since they have the same father. Islam is inspired by the devil as a doctrinal alternative to God's Word, and homosexuality is the devil's alternative to what God hath only joined together. The liberals see Islam as another victim of Biblical Christianity, which is its real enemy, and which explains the paradox of liberal support for a religion that is morally opposed to the liberal ethos. Pilate and Herod were made friends in opposition to Christ, and likewise in this case.
The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (Psalms 2:2-9)
This whole situation is deviating from what it really was, which is:
A muslim claiming allegiance to ISIS went into a night club and killed 49 Americans.
It is a WAR.
The mosque in Orlando should be shut down.
There is obviously a network of ISIS associated enemy combatants in Orlando.
There are MORE networks in other areas of this country.
They need to be rooted out.
Not monitored.
Monitoring has done NOTHING to prevent any American deaths.
The borders should be closed.
No more muslims should be allowed in here.
Christians follow the Lord Christ, who did do something when He saw immorality, as did Paul.
Leviticus 18:22 niv
“‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
Leviticus 20:13 niv
“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Jude 1:7 niv
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
If Christians are responsible for this muslim act of terror, are they also responsible for the terror in Paris and Belgium? This guy is a complete fool. It’s islam and he is giving them a pass.
I’m just staying out of it. I’ve offered my condolences but the hatred from the left continues. I’m done.
Incredible work. Bravo!
“In many cases, no doubt, Americans do not want to be delivered from their sins (Matthew 1:21) they want to be delivered from G-d to remain in their sins and call it grace.” Jeremiah 7:10
HIV ages them 14 years, which, I assume, kills them 14 years early.
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