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To: metmom

Again, ignoring His humanity. She is NOT the mother of the second person of the Godhead.

Mary is the mother of JESUS.

Who did the angel say Mary was going to give birth to?

God?

Or God with us?


Sorry that it’s taken so long to respond to your questions. I’ve been rather busy.

I’m not sure what you mean by “ignoring His humanity.” Just as it is with any child born of a woman, Jesus is a human being. So to speak of Jesus as the “son of Mary” is to implicitly acknowledge His humanity.

I agree with your statement that Mary is the mother of Jesus. It is equally true that the son of Mary is Jesus.

Regarding your question about who the angel said Mary was going to give birth to, I do not find where an angel said either “God” or “God with us”. There was a prophet who foretold that “a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” (Matt 1:23)

The angel did tell Mary she shall conceive in her womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name Jesus. The angel further said that holy thing which shall be born of her shall be called the Son of God. (Cf. Luke 1:31-35)

So Jesus is the Son of God. But is Jesus God? Just as we can find nowhere in Scripture where anyone says Mary is the “mother of God”, neither can we find anywhere in Scripture where anyone says “Jesus is God”. But Scripture clearly reveals that Jesus is God. This is most clearly revealed when Jesus tells the Jews in John 8:58, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

So, using Scripture, I show how we can say:

The son of Mary is Jesus.

and:

Jesus is God.

The son of Mary is Jesus. Jesus is God.

Accordingly:

The son of Mary is Jesus, who is God.

Therefore:

Jesus, the son of Mary, is God.

You wrote to me in a previous post:

Proper teaching of Jesus uses..... ***SCRIPTURE***

Can you show me, using Scripture, where it says that Jesus, the son of Mary, is not God?

Peace,
Rich


316 posted on 11/10/2015 8:34:41 AM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265
Jesus, the son of Mary, is God.

More accurately, Jesus is God in the flesh...A distinction with a difference...

So Jesus is the Son of God. But is Jesus God? Just as we can find nowhere in Scripture where anyone says Mary is the “mother of God”, neither can we find anywhere in Scripture where anyone says “Jesus is God”. But Scripture clearly reveals that Jesus is God. This is most clearly revealed when Jesus tells the Jews in John 8:58, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

Your religion is missing the difference...God became manifest, revealed in the flesh...The flesh was not God...The flesh was not before Abraham...You may not like the obvious implication but, oh well...It is what it is...

If you really study the words in scripture you'll know why Mary is not called the mother of God...It's because she isn't...

324 posted on 11/10/2015 9:22:22 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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