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Robert Schuller dies at 88, but his legacy of false teachings lives on...[2 Peter 2:1]
Free Republic | 4/2/2015 | Jan Sobieski

Posted on 04/02/2015 11:56:13 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

I am sad at the news of fellow Iowan Dr. Robert Schuller and pray for the comfort of the Lord on his family. However, I am very concerned for his soul. Dr. Robert Schuller was a prolific false teacher whose errant teachings destroyed thousands, if not millions (especially old ladies who could not drive to church who clung to his false TV teachings - some of whom I knew personally).

Dr. Schuller is gone, but the damage he wrought on the Christian Church persists in his younger disciples (e.g. Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, etc.) The following is a short subset of the many heretical teachings that this 'wolf in sheep's clothing' introduced...(please feel free to add your own Robert Schuller heresies)...

Schuller - We enter the Kingdom of God when we ‘have a dream…focus on the dream…[and] fuel the dream’ (Hour of Power TV broadcast 25/3/01) Schuller - The Church needs a theology that is man-centred, not God-centred (Hour of Power TV Broadcast)

Schuller - Jesus bore the cross to sanctify our self esteem.

Schuller - Self-love is the ultimate will of man (Self Esteem: The New Reformation, 1982).

Schuller - Focus on the things the major faiths can agree on.

Schuller - Transcendental Meditation, Zen Buddhism and yoga are valid methods for harnessing God’s divine laws.

Schuller - “Its time to go to the Pope and say, ‘what do we have to do to come home?’” (1987).

Schuller - If he came back and found his grandchildren were Muslims it wouldn’t bother him. (Hour of Power)

Schuller - When the Bible says a people without a vision perish it is talking about the ‘inner eye’ of visualisation (Psychology Today, 1985).

Schuller - “AND WHAT IS 'HELL'? IT IS THE LOSS OF PRIDE THAT NATURALLY FOLLOWS SEPARATION FROM GOD--the ultimate and unfailing source of our soul's sense of self-respect. (Schuller, Self-Esteem, pp. 14-15, 93).

Schuller - “What do I mean by sin? Answer: 'SIN IS ANY ACT OR THOUGHT THAT ROBS MYSELF OR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING OF HIS OR HER SELF-ESTEEM’” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 14).

Schuller - THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD OFFERS A DEEP SPIRITUAL CURE FOR THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX AND LAYS THE FIRM FOUNDATION FOR A SOLID SPIRITUAL SELF-ESTEEM” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 60).

Schuller - “Classical theology DEFINES SIN AS 'REBELLION AGAINST GOD.' The answer is not incorrect as much as IT IS SHALLOW AND INSULTING TO THE HUMAN BEING.(Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 65).

Schuller - “The core of original sin, Lack of Trust. Or, it could be considered an innate inability to adequately value ourselves. Label it a 'negative self-image,' but DO NOT SAY THAT THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE HUMAN SOUL IS WICKEDNESS. ... POSITIVE CHRISTIANITY DOES NOT HOLD TO HUMAN DEPRAVITY, BUT TO HUMAN INABILITY. I am humanly unable to correct my negative self-image until I encounter a life-changing experience with non-judgmental love bestowed upon me by a Person whom I admire so much that to be unconditionally accepted by him is to be born again” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 67).

Schuller - TO BE BORN AGAIN MEANS THAT WE MUST BE CHANGED FROM A NEGATIVE TO A POSITIVE SELF-IMAGE--from inferiority to self-esteem, from fear to love, from doubt to trust” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 68).

Schuller - “THE CROSS SANCTIFIES THE EGO TRIP. FOR THE CROSS PROTECTED OUR LORD'S PERFECT SELF-ESTEEM FROM TURNING INTO SINFUL PRIDE” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 75).

Schuller - ESSENTIALLY, IF CHRISTIANITY IS TO SUCCEED IN THE NEXT MILLENNIUM, IT MUST CEASE TO BE A NEGATIVE RELIGION AND MUST BECOME POSITIVE” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 104).

Schuller - “JESUS NEVER CALLED A PERSON A SINNER. ... Rather he reserved his righteous rebuke for those who used their religious authority to generate guilt and caused people to lose their ability to taste and enjoy their right to dignity...” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, pp. 100,126).

Schuller - “Christ is the Ideal One, for HE WAS SELF-ESTEEM INCARNATE” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 135).

Schuller - EXERCISING NARROW AUTHORITARIANISM IN DOCTRINES AND PRACTICES AND BY SOWING SEEDS OF SUSPICION AND DISSENSION IN THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY. (Schuller, Self-Esteem, pp. 153-154).

Schuller - “The classical error of historical Christianity is that we have never started with the value of the person. Rather, WE HAVE STARTED FROM THE 'UNWORTHINESS OF THE SINNER,' AND THAT STARTING POINT HAS SET THE STAGE FOR THE GLORIFICATION OF HUMAN SHAME in Christian theology” (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 162).


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: deception; falseteacher; heresy; megachurch; obituary; pastor; schuller
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God have mercy on his soul...
1 posted on 04/02/2015 11:56:13 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski
I was living in California when I became a believer - his ministry gave me my first bible for free.

Never really followed him much (I was broke) , but he did give me the Word ...

2 posted on 04/02/2015 11:58:46 AM PDT by 11th_VA (where's Brutus?)
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To: 11th_VA

A Bible is a very good thing. God probably used the church (instead of a donkey) to give you his word. :-) But this does not make his teachings, which are completely contrary to God’s word, valid.


3 posted on 04/02/2015 12:01:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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God have mercy on his soul...

Too late for that. He lead thousands into apostasy.

4 posted on 04/02/2015 12:02:07 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Well, he sure was off on a lot of stuff.......

I never realized how bad it was and what impact he had on upcoming generations of preachers and televangelists.

Thank God there’s old standby’s still available like Tozer.


5 posted on 04/02/2015 12:04:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 11th_VA
My godly mom was suckered by his feel-good theology during my childhood. I didn't know much about him either, and only became aware of his heretical, unbiblical teachings through The Seduction of Christianity, by Dave Hunt and T.A. McMahon.
6 posted on 04/02/2015 12:04:42 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...

Ping


7 posted on 04/02/2015 12:04:57 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: fwdude

God have mercy on his soul...

Too late for that. He lead thousands into apostasy.

You are correct God did have mercy on him for a time. Now he will spend eternity longing for the comfort of the bed and sickness he died in and with for it would be pure bliss compared to his state now.


8 posted on 04/02/2015 12:06:02 PM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: metmom

Amen! I love Tozer


9 posted on 04/02/2015 12:06:42 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: fwdude

This book helped my family as well! Dave Hunt took a lot of flack for this expose of false teaching, but the “Seduction of Christianity” helped my family and thousands of others to see through this deception.


10 posted on 04/02/2015 12:08:25 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

David Hunt has been very vilified for sure.

I never found much wrong with what he said.


11 posted on 04/02/2015 12:09:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Hope he knew The Lord Jesus Christ and was known by Him.

(Early on, I confused the Crystal Cathedral with Mormonism. Never did get fully straightened out on the differences and don’t want to now.)


12 posted on 04/02/2015 12:10:06 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I’ve just been digging into some Tozer books I’ve had on my shelf for years, and wow have they been helpful.

I’ve read them before, but they didn’t have the impact they are having now.

I kind of wonder why it is that I didn’t get this stuff sooner. I have friends who are also asking the same thing. Why do we have to be getting so far along in years before we really GET it.


13 posted on 04/02/2015 12:11:24 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Resettozero
I could be wrong, but I don't see how he could have truly known the Lord...

1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
14 posted on 04/02/2015 12:12:01 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

After watching him a few times, I realized he was not someone I should listen to. I remember reading the book about his daughter’s accident. I also read the 2 books about Tara Nason who suffered a severe brain injury. Her dad worked with Schuller back then. I think he led many people astray.


15 posted on 04/02/2015 12:12:13 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Wow! You are right to be concerned about his eternal destination. Sounds extremely New Agey to me.

I never paid any attention to the man, as he seemed smarmy to me, but not one of those beliefs will get you within shouting distance of glory.


16 posted on 04/02/2015 12:16:00 PM PDT by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
It is too late for that now... Many had warned him of his false, "another of a different kind" so-called "gospel" and had warned him to repent and come to saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and to forsake preaching his false gospel before it was eternally too late, but he would not. So now he finds himself in a Christless eternity (Luke 16:22b - 23a).

Thank you for listing just some of Schuller's heretical teachings. Sadly, as you have mentioned he has led countless millions to Hell with him and left a bitter legacy of a next generation of false teachers, some of whom you arightly named, who are following in Schuller's teachings and foot steps and exponentially leading countless millions more to Hell.

17 posted on 04/02/2015 12:17:20 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Almighty Jehovah, deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

another ping for Tozer, J.I. Packer, A.W. Pink, John Piper, John MacArther, Erwin Lutzer, C.I. Schofield, Spurgeon, C.S. Lewis, Francis Schaefer, et al.!


18 posted on 04/02/2015 12:19:28 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: metmom
It was sad, he was the Joel Olsteen of his day

He taught that the whole purpose of Christ was so you "feel good"

19 posted on 04/02/2015 12:31:30 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: fwdude; Jan_Sobieski
I may be wrong about this (it's always possible!) but according to your theology, Schuller couldn't possibly have had had an impact on anybody relative to their salvation, could he? Because if they were predestined to salvation, they were saved; if they were predestined to damnation, they were damned; this is required by the sovereignty of God; and neither their own choices nor Schuller's supposed "influence" could have changed their eternal destiny.

To clarify, I don't believe that. But I thought you did?

I won't mind if you correct me if I'm wrong. In fact I would be happy.

20 posted on 04/02/2015 12:33:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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