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To: CynicalBear
Once baptised a Catholic always a Catholic right?

Was Jimmy Swaggert saved before during or after he cheated on his wife? How a bout Jim Bakker Cheating on his wife and embezzling millions, When was he saved. OSAS another prot myth.

243 posted on 03/02/2015 8:14:06 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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To: verga
OSAS another prot myth.

Again ... waiting for any catholic to find the place in scripture where the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit can be reversed.

Jesus said some demons cannot be cast out except by prayer and fasting ... yet apparently a person can cast the Holy Spirit out of themselves somehow?

252 posted on 03/02/2015 8:33:52 AM PST by dartuser
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To: verga; CynicalBear; Arthur McGowan; Elsie
Was Jimmy Swaggert saved before during or after he cheated on his wife? How a bout Jim Bakker Cheating on his wife and embezzling millions, When was he saved. OSAS another prot myth.

How 'bout all those catholic priests molesting little boys?

How about the cover up from the vatican?

How about all those popes who did all of those terrible things they did? Still saved?

Those dudes still saved??

Paul had an on-going battle with the desires of the old flesh....he still saved?

Peter denied Christ three times....he still saved?

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There are a lot of "good people" in the world today who do these things. People run charities, bring food to sick people, visit people in jail, etc.

However, a lot of those people do not know who Jesus is. They do not believe in Him or have faith in Him and they could care less about Him.

Do those people, because they did these good things, yet do not have faith in Christ, inherit the Kingdom or are they cast into the fire?

258 posted on 03/02/2015 8:51:29 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: verga
Hugo Chavez died 'in the bosom of the Church': Catholic News Agency (CNA).

Once Catholic always Catholic right?

259 posted on 03/02/2015 8:54:29 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga
Was Jimmy Swaggert saved before during or after he cheated on his wife? How a bout Jim Bakker Cheating on his wife and embezzling millions, When was he saved. OSAS another prot myth.

If you had any familiarity with scripture, you'd know that God forgives sin...

All we can know is what they testify...It's God that knows...

Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

This man sounds like you Catholics...

Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

This man sounds like Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker and countless other Christians thru out the world...

Just sayin'...

435 posted on 03/02/2015 4:29:21 PM PST by Iscool
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To: verga
Are these leaders of the Catholic church saved?

Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/

1. Liberius, reigned 352-66 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
2. Honorius I, reigned 625-638 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
3. Stephen VI, reigned 896-89 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
4. John XII, reigned 955-964 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
5. Benedict IX, reigned 1032-1048 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
6. Boniface VIII, reigned 1294-1303 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
7. Urban VI, reigned 1378-1389 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
8. Alexander VI, reigned 1492-1503 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
9. Leo X, reigned 1513-1521 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
10. Clement VII, reigned 1523-1524 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]

Top 10 Worst Popes in History

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php

1. Pope Alexander VI (1431 – 1503)
2. Pope John XII (c. 937 – 964)
3. Pope Benedict IX (c. 1012 – 1065/85)
4. Pope Sergius III (? – 911)
5. Pope Stephen VI (? – 897)
6. Pope Julius III (1487 – 1555)
7. Pope Urban II (ca. 1035 – 1099)
8. Pope Clement VI (1291 – 1352)
9. Pope Leo X (1475 – 1521)
10. Pope Boniface VIII (c. 1235 – 1303)

If *Protestantism* is invalidated based on the behavior of certain religious figures allegedly within it, then it says the same thing for Catholicism with its religious leaders and the lifestyles they lived.

444 posted on 03/02/2015 4:44:11 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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