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For the Record: As everyone knew, Pope approved most shocking document in the History...
Rorate Caeli ^ | 1/30/15 | New Catholic

Posted on 01/30/2015 7:04:38 AM PST by BlatherNaut

"For the Record: As everyone knew, Pope approved most shocking document in the History of the Church of Rome"

It was what Italians call a "segreto di Pulcinella", that is, not a secret at all: the Pope was personally aware and personally approved the relatio post disceptationem, the "midterm" report released on Monday following the first week of the 2014 Extraordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops "on the Family".

What has been called by many prelates a "disaster" or "unacceptable", the first official document of the Church of Rome ever accepting of very curious notions (including the "positive" aspects of same-sex "relationships"), the relatio post disceptationem had obviously been prepared, by its very timing and the astonishing (for Vatican standards) fact of the simultaneous release of several translations, long before the Synod by Lobbyists, including Cardinal Baldisseri, with the main influence of Archbishop Bruno Forte. Now, Cardinal Baldisseri, master of all Synod-related matters, has nonchalantly revealed when asked (as reported by Aleteia and by the splendid Hilary White for LifeSiteNews) that the Pope had been personally aware of it and had personally approved the content of the report.

He also made clear that the non-approved paragraphs of the final report were included as part of the main document (in complete contradiction with any supposed notion of "synodality" or consensus) by direct papal order.

To our knowledge, French historian Christophe Dickès was the first to say at the time, immediately after the publication of the midterm relatio, that its publication would have been impossible without the full knowledge and approval by the pope.

(Excerpt) Read more at rorate-caeli.blogspot.com ...


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1 posted on 01/30/2015 7:04:39 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

I am thinking more and more that Benedict was FORCED out, or else they would have done what they did to John Paul (The First)

And Francis is an enemy infiltrator


2 posted on 01/30/2015 7:11:25 AM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016 (for 16 years of conservative bliss))
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To: Mr. K

Enthusiastic schism to follow.


3 posted on 01/30/2015 7:16:49 AM PST by steve8714 (Uptown Funk; Bruno Mars channels James Brown. Wow.)
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To: BlatherNaut

The Church is the Bride of Christ.

PRAY FOR HER.


4 posted on 01/30/2015 7:17:17 AM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Francis is an unmitigated disaster. Too bad they can’t do a papal election recall. But that would imply fallibility in the process.


5 posted on 01/30/2015 7:19:10 AM PST by afsnco
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To: married21
The Church is the Bride of Christ. PRAY FOR HER.

Ora et labora.

6 posted on 01/30/2015 7:28:39 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

3rd secret?


7 posted on 01/30/2015 7:31:00 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

Time will tell.


8 posted on 01/30/2015 7:32:28 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: afsnco
too bad they can't do a papal election recall. But that would imply fallibility in the process

Would it? Since Francis was elected while his predecessor is still alive, is the election valid?

9 posted on 01/30/2015 7:35:57 AM PST by grania
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To: BlatherNaut

What else would expect from a Jesuit?


10 posted on 01/30/2015 7:55:39 AM PST by Nifster
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To: afsnco

There is no infallibility in the choice of a Pope as far as I know.

And a recall isn’t necessary, if there is manifest heresy I think the Cardinals could declare the see vacant and re-elect. No earthly clue what the process would be on that, but it has generally been accepted as a theoretical possibility.

Just to be clear though, I don’t think Francis is a heretic so much as a gabber who doesn’t consider what he says. I cannot imagine him obstinately holding to a heretical position per se.


11 posted on 01/30/2015 8:00:13 AM PST by Claud
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To: BlatherNaut

Francis also thinks trannies have “something positive” to offer the church. Polygamists are next on his agenda. He likes a little sit-down with all the perverts to tell them God loves them too.


12 posted on 01/30/2015 8:19:48 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: married21

That would be Israel


13 posted on 01/30/2015 8:44:01 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: BlatherNaut

Pope Francis To Followers: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same” - See more at: http://nationalreport.net/pope-francis-followers-koran-holy-bible/#sthash.7Q5Yx1oe.dpuf


14 posted on 01/30/2015 8:53:52 AM PST by javie
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To: Claud

So you’re saying his removal is about as likely as a Senate conviction of Obama in impeachment proceedings.

What are examples of heresies that should trigger his removal?


15 posted on 01/30/2015 9:12:08 AM PST by afsnco
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To: javie

Hi Javie, I clicked on that link and the quote there is indeed shocking. But I can’t seem to find any other source for that quote other than that article. Googling the quote only pulls up the same article and two other pages that have been pulled down.

I then did a bit more research and posted the following comment under the “article”

TIME OUT. There’s no link for the supposed quote and googling it only pulls up this one article and two other pages from consiracy websites, and even they have been pulled down.

I think this author got fooled by a hoax.

But if I’m wrong it would be helpful for her to show that by providing a link, a source or even a place or event at which the supposed quote was uttered.

She might also add a line of speculation on why, in the whole world, the only news sites that published this suposedly public statement were her, two (withdrawn) wordpress blogs and one anti-semitic blogspot.

As a reminder:

1. Google.
2. Publish


16 posted on 01/30/2015 9:18:53 AM PST by edwinland
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To: edwinland; javie

Although I could totally see him saying such things, something about this article seemed off to me.


17 posted on 01/30/2015 9:23:08 AM PST by piusv
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To: afsnco
The process is known to be fallible, or else there would not be antipopes.
18 posted on 01/30/2015 9:25:44 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: piusv

I could see him saying something along the lines that Allah is another name for God. But I could not see anyone saying that Jesus Christ and Muhammed are two names for the same person. Even if you somehow syncretically believed the entire Bible and the entire Koran, you wouldn’t say they are the same person, anymore than you would say that King David and St Paul are two different names for the same person.

I wrote to National Report requesting a correction.

I think it was extremely sloppy of them to publish such an obviously fabricated quote.


19 posted on 01/30/2015 9:27:48 AM PST by edwinland
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To: NKP_Vet

Polygamists are next on his agenda


Not even in the same class as sodomy.


20 posted on 01/30/2015 9:58:02 AM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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