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To: Stingray

Matthew 27:51-53 records what happened at Christ’s crucifixion.

1 Thessalonians can not contain prophecy that was fulfilled in Matthew 27 because Thessalonians was written years after the crucifixion by the Apostle Paul.

So we have prophecy (NOTE THAT THE CRUCIFIXION AND RESURRECTION ARE MENTIONED IN THE PROPHETIC TEXT, JUST IN CASE IT MAY SLIP BY UNNOTICED):

1 Thessalonians 4

“14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

I ask again for evidence that this prophecy has come to pass in history.

If it has not, then it most certainly will come to pass in the future.

It’s quite preposterous to think that this prophecy has already come to pass.

So you can’t face the fact yet. You’re not arguing with me so much as you’re arguing with 1 Thessalonians.


124 posted on 01/30/2015 11:22:53 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Repent !)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“Matthew 27:51-53 records what happened at Christ’s crucifixion.”

No. if you read the text carefully, it records what happens at His resurrection: the first resurrection, or “first fruits.”

“1 Thessalonians can not contain prophecy that was fulfilled in Matthew 27 because Thessalonians was written years after the crucifixion by the Apostle Paul.”

I never wrote that it was. However, again, you’re pulling passages explicitly written for the Thessalonians and trying to, somehow, make them as appear as though they are written to us.

Did you read Daniel 12:1-4, 7? Did you read Revelation 22:10?

Do you understand what those verses are saying? If not, then your repeated appeals to a physical resurrection intended for us at Christ’s return mean nothing.

“I ask again for evidence that this prophecy has come to pass in history.

If it has not, then it most certainly will come to pass in the future.

It’s quite preposterous to think that this prophecy has already come to pass.”

Not at all. It’s only preposterous if you believe the resurrection of believers has to happen the way in which you believe it will. But again, I already know what you believe, and it’s not what the Bible actually teaches. You can discover the truth here:

http://www.preteristarchive.com/Hyper/1999_curtis_resurrection.html

“So you can’t face the fact yet.”

No, my FRiend. It’s you who cannot face the truth.


125 posted on 01/31/2015 12:13:16 AM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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