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To: Iscool

**Nope...It’s a term used by Christians who have been born twice...Born once in a natural birth (water)**

The first birth is covered in John 1:13; “Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man..”. No water mentioned as a sign of first birth.

For you position to have any force, you need John 3:6 to read: “That which is born of the water is flesh....”.

Acts 2:38.........is it from heaven or of men?


86 posted on 01/16/2015 11:39:44 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel
The first birth is covered in John 1:13; “Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man..”. No water mentioned as a sign of first birth.

Nope...

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him,
(those of the first birth)
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
(the 2nd birth)
even to them that believe on his name:

Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Those are of the 2nd birth...

For you position to have any force, you need John 3:6 to read: “That which is born of the water is flesh....”.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

This is a reference back to John 1:13...John 1:13 is certainly not speaking of a natural birth but a spiritual birth...

Anyone who knows anything about a natural birth knows we were conceived and raised in a bag (for lack of a better term) of liquid/water...

So all that works for me...

111 posted on 01/17/2015 6:15:30 AM PST by Iscool
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