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To: annalex
Did I say anything about translations?

Sorry, I thought the Vulgate was the Catholic Bible.

What Bible did you refer to when you said "the Catholic Bible?"

That the unbaptized babies go to hell is an opinion that is within the Catholic breadth of opinions on the subject, although the one that prevails today instead says that we can hope otherwise.
Wow, that is the best Catholicism can do? HOPE otherwise?

Do you know nothing of the love Jesus has for children?

Do you really think he would allow a, let's just say, 6 mo. old baby go to hell just because he wasn't sprinkled (that is NOT baptism) by a priest shortly after he/she was born?

That's totally un-Biblical and horrendous! The Jesus of Christians would allow a child to go to heaven if by some unfortunate turn of events he/she died before reaching the age of reason.

But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.---Mark 10:14
Does the Catholic Bible have that verse?

BTW there was no Catholic Church at that time, just the Christian church.

So Jesus is saying "such is the kingdom of God"...little children coming unto him.

WITHOUT being baptized.

I'll take Jesus' way over the Catholic church's way, for the love of God.

5,560 posted on 01/08/2015 10:37:44 PM PST by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: Syncro
The Catholic Bible is the original: Hebrew and Greek, as written when written. Vulgate is just the Latin translation. There is a lot good about it, but it is nevertheless a translation, not the original.

The Church does not have a definitive teaching on the unbaptized. it is true that a child cannot sin, but on the other hand we have "He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned" (Mark 16:16), which seems to limit the state of being saved to the people who are baptized. Now, you might love it or hate it, but that is where the Catholic Church stands, and frankly I am only interested in what the Holy Church teaches, not in opinions of Protestant men.

5,577 posted on 01/09/2015 8:04:35 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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