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Ah, so the admonition that women remain silent and not teach men is for non-Catholic women only it seems.

The Apostle to the Gentiles, Paul, was very clear and firm. He left written evidence that women were to keep silence in the churches. They were commanded to be under obedience as also said the law. It was a shame for women to speak in the church. And for those Corinthians that even thought to question this apostolic ruling Paul challenged them asking if the word of God came out from them (No, the word came from Israel), and if it only came to them (No, Messiah sent the Apostles to the corners of the known world). He further said if anyone thinks himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, he must admit that the things Paul is teaching about behavior in the churches, including that of women, are the commandments of the Lord.
Paul leaves another piece of scriptural evidence in his first letter to Timothy. Women must adorn themselves with good works and modest apparel, learning in subjection to the appropriate authority, not teaching nor usurping authority over the man. He explains the role rationale in terms of Adam and Eve.
Paul taught the same doctrine in all the churches of the saints. The commandments of The Lord were the same in all the churches. There is one holy catholic apostolic Church. If you hold the Sola Scriptura doctrine I expect you to obey Paul's instructions, which clearly exclude women trying to teach believing men doctrine.
You will say what of Hannah ? Jewish widow, married to a priest or Levite and so had a right to live in a designated area of the Temple. It never gave her carte Blanche to violate the law (which she did not do).
You will bring up Priscilla. Jewish, married to Aquila, a Jew; both probably original disciples of a Messiah. Her conversations with Apollos were with her husband and private, not in public. That is how reverent Jewish women live even today.
Now you say I don't require this same standard of Catholic women. They don't hold the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. They believe in apostolic succession such that they are in subjection to the Church which sets the rules; no women priests, regular religious teachers in obedience to a bishop, etc. no lone rangers, everything in order, and supported by the authority of the holy catholic apostolic Church. I submit myself to the authority of the holy catholic apostolic Church, else I would be a rebel and Lone Ranger. I accept traditions even though my instincts might take me elsewhere. I bought a clue; the Father did not do what I would have expected when Messiah ascended to heaven. He is right, always right.
If you say I misinterpret the texts and women are allowed to teach doctrine to men, prophesy, etc. I say show me your authority or tradition. that approves, licenses, or sponsors a woman teaching, prophesying, or preaching like that. No lone rangerettes. Either Sola Scriptura and Paul's express delivery of the Lord's commandments and/or Paul's apostolic teaching, or a denomination, sect, or faith group tradition upon which rests your authority to attempt to teach me doctrine.
Or better yet, come home to the Catholic Church where you will always be welcome no matter how far you've travelled.

If you hold the Sola Scriptura doctrine I expect you to obey Paul's instructions, which clearly exclude women trying to teach believing men doctrine.

A few thoughts:

Since Roman Catholics don't adhere to sola Scriptura does this mean you don't have to obey Paul's instructions?

You noted at the start of your reply that Paul left, "written evidence that women were to keep silence in the churches. They were commanded to be under obedience as also said the law. It was a shame for women to speak in the church". By what right are you asserting that this applies to anonymous Internet forums on religious topics? Did Paul mean "in church" or didn't he?

You initially brought this out as a challenge for me to stop trying to "teach" you something if I really held to Scripture as the ultimate authority (sola Scriptura), yet you devised your own personal interpretation of that Scripture to mean I and other non-Catholic women here should cease posting to you as we were not "allowed" by the Apostle Paul. As you can see from the responses of Mrs. Don-O (a fellow Catholic) you are incorrect in that view. This isn't church. That NO Christian man (non-Catholic or Catholic) backed you up in your silly masochistic tactic should be a learning experience for you here at Free Republic. We can ALL learn from each other and gender should be a non-issue. Respect is a two-way street.

No one has to show you any credentials to post scriptures or any specific comments, opinions, wisdom or knowledge that they have gained.

It’s time for you to quit badgering the women posters that don’t belong to your belief system.

Discuss the issues all you want, but be aware of the rules of the Religion Forum which you can find by clicking on my name at the bottom of this post.

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