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To: terycarl; af_vet_1981; Arthur McGowan; Salvation; Elsie; Mrs. Don-o; NKP_Vet; NYer; metmom; ...
Terycarl wrote in post 4842: Catholics are not required to agree with every move he makes nor every opinion that he utters. He might lean toward the democrats and I wouldn't like it at all..He is a human being just like the rest of us and only under VERY specific circumstances am I required to adhere to his proclamations...otherwise....whatever!

WOW! JUST WOW! Are you making your personal interpretation of Scripture?? Are other catholics participating in the reformation like you?

Dude...if you are really catholic you need to run, I mean, run to the nearest priest and do some serious confessing.

If you've been baptized into the RCC then you have to be subject to the pope. It's not your choice.

Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, Nov. 18, 1302, ex cathedra: “With Faith urging us we are forced to believe and to hold the one, holy, Catholic Church and that, apostolic, and we firmly believe and simply confess this Church outside of which there is no salvation nor remission of sin… Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by absolute necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

It is not possible, therefore, to be subject to the Roman Pontiff without receiving the Sacrament of Baptism, since the Church (and the Roman Pontiff) cannot exercise judgment (jurisdiction) over an unbaptized person (de fide, Trent). And since it is not possible to be subject to the Roman Pontiff without the Sacrament of Baptism, it is not possible to be saved without the Sacrament of Baptism, since every human creature must be subject to the Roman Pontiff for salvation (de fide, Boniface VIII).

http://www.onetruecatholicfaith.com/Roman-Catholic-Articles.php?id=602&title=7.+Subjection+to+the+Church%2FRoman+Pontiff&category=Outside+the+Catholic+Church+there+is+no+Salvation&page=1

4,878 posted on 01/03/2015 8:21:45 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Given the time we are rapidly approaching and the current pope with the split we see emerging in the Catholic Church we are going to see those Catholics here in some serious turmoil. With those ex cathedra “subject to the Roman Pontiff” statements Catholics have some serious soul searching to do.


4,881 posted on 01/03/2015 9:15:29 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ealgeone
Dude...if you are really catholic you need to run, I mean, run to the nearest priest and do some serious confessing. If you've been baptized into the RCC then you have to be subject to the pope. It's not your choice.

I don't run anywhere and I have nothing, at the moment, to confess.

I am, as a Catholic, certainly subject to the Pope, but I might not share his favorite song, color, place on Earth, political views, opinion on a certain person, action...whatever. He is the titular head of an organization of which I am a proud member and only his directives concerning the church bind me to anything. He might say that he loves the president of Venezuela....I think that man is a tryant and should be done away with. I, nor any other Catholic is forced to believe or agree with every statement that he makes.

4,911 posted on 01/03/2015 7:41:33 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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