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To: af_vet_1981; ealgeone
>>It is a covenant relationship with God that incorporates those in said covenant into a corporate relationship with not only God, but each other.<<

Good luck with that when you stand alone before God at the judgement.

>>Not even Elijah the Prophet could claim God as his personal Savior.<<

Oh really? When Moses disobeyed did the rest of Israel get to cross into the promised land? Time and time again it's shown that it's the individual. Noah, Lot, and many others.

>>That Gentiles are grafted in.<<

Not as a group. It's the individuals upon personal belief.

4,872 posted on 01/03/2015 5:25:03 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; af_vet_1981; ealgeone
By all rights, if any church is going to be considered the OTC, it ought to be the Corinthian church that Paul said was the body of Christ.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

Romans 14:7-12 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.

For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother?

For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written,

“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”

So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

If God is going to judge the church corporately, do they really want to be associated with that list of immoral, corrupt popes that are throughout their history?

Of the priests who have been molesting children?

Or liberal pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage politicians and those Catholics who vote for them?

4,880 posted on 01/03/2015 8:46:59 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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