Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
Check post #5211. I pinged you to it.
That isn't actually true. Zooplankton is actually a categorization of marine life spanning a range of organism sizes including small protozoans and large metazoans.
They do not, like sponges and corals, form clumps or structures which include any degree of cell differentiation. They do not adhere to a shared life as even a rudimentary multicellular organism. They have no living, effective contact with each other which would contribute to a vital unity.
Again, it depends upon whether you are talking of proto or meta zooplankton, because most of them DO form groups and multicell creatures such as jellyfish (metazoan zooplankton include cnidarians such as jellyfish) and also krill (a crustacean) - which your Blue Whale - as large as he is - depends entirely upon to survive as krill is their only food source. In fact, species of zooplankton are not dispersed uniformly or randomly within a region of the ocean. Instead ‘patches’ of zooplankton species (this also applies to phytoplankton) exist throughout the ocean. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooplankton)
Even the tiniest organism living in the seas certainly DO adhere to a shared life - how else do they procreate? They DO have a vast shared life with higher species of marine life and even if their only God-given function is to be a food source for higher species, I don't think anyone could conclude that they don't contribute to a vital unity with ALL life.
Now, I know you aren't comparing the non-affiliated Christians here to zooplankton nor do I think you imagine your church is the Blue Whale (he EATS the little guys, remember - by the billions every day). What I would like for you to recognize is that NO Christian believes he has no connection to other Christians. Speaking for myself - and I think for maybe many others here, if I may be so bold - is that the connection we have to THE body of Christ is that we are all part of His spiritual house, the one where each believer is a living stone part of it. Just as Paul says, we are all one body, one loaf, no matter what house of worship we sit in on Sunday or other days. This bond is one of unity in the spirit as children of the Most High God, heirs and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ. We become one with Him through faith in Jesus Christ. We follow Him, because He is the Shepherd, we hear His voice and only follow Him. We know Him and He knows us.
I understand the Catholic need to place identity labels on people and it's hard to think of someone apart from what "church" they attend. But, if I've learned one thing in my nearly ten years here it is that people don't HAVE to say their religious affiliation because if they participate on these RF threads long enough it gets revealed, whether they know it or not. I know Roman Catholics believe that they are THE church Jesus established on St. Peter and that gives them street cred to declare they alone hold the full truth of Christianity. But, we know that the early church was a loosely affiliated group of local, independent assemblies that had the gospel of Jesus Christ in common. They each had more or less complete copies of the Scriptures that were used as their rule of faith and those who delved into heretical beliefs contrary to what the Apostles taught - as they wrote it down for that purpose - they were countered BY the Scriptures and everyone that wanted to know what was orthodox belief could know it both by the leaders of the local churches who were handed down the teachings (traditions) and the Scriptures they used to confirm it. Anyone want to know what the Apostles taught? They had the Scriptures they wrote that ensured it would always be known.
So, if someone wants to judge what another believes here, all they need do is read what that person writes then verify if what they say is true according to God's ONLY inspired resource - His Scriptures. I don't expect anyone to just take my word for what is the truth of the Christian faith, that's why I usually include book/chapter/verse to back up what I might say. It's not going to be true because I say it, or because "my" church says it, it will be true because God's word says it. Having a record of what the early church taught through the church "fathers" is good - it helps to know what was believed by everyone from the start - but these men were not infallible or inspired by God to write what they did. We only have the Scripture for that authority.
can you imagine, for just a moment, what a fiasco the world would be, and what Christianity would be 2,000 years after Christ if there were no organized religion??????
It was the fact thAT THEY ESTABLISHED AN ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD CARRY ON THEIR MESSAGE, WRITE IT DOWN, PASS IT ON TO FUTURE GENERATIONS (whoops, I hit the caps key) The Catholic church, as an organization, is very much responsible for the progression of western civilization as we know it.
billions of people, over the years, interpreting Christianity each by his/her own standards would have been nothing short of a disaster and we all know it. Say thanks to Catholicism for the Christianity that we have today. Whatever shortcomings that you think it has (and it has none) would be far overshadowed by the unbelieveable good that she has accomplished.
You come up with some strange conclusions....on the other hand, Catholic women espousing Catholic teachings are correct....non-Catholic women espousing whatever are either in error or at least incomplete.
Correct so far.
...and when you then said Sonny Barger did not want anything to do with security...( a bunch of "filler" about you...no surprise)... it suggested to me you knew him personally
(LOL because I know Jagger you take the leap that I must know "Sonny"...as you call him. But without that leap of "faith" you couldn't infer that I was in jail. With a question, very clever but you are still wrong in just about everything.)
So it's true, he did not want anything to do with the security. His own words:
"I ain't no cop, I ain't never going to ever pretend to be no cop. I didn't go there to police nothing"
Your comment that my comment was misleading, is the height of misleading itself. Typical tactic of yours, post something to a poster that you YOURSELF are doing.
Standard Operating Procedures, I've seen it a lot.
Nice copout, you were teasing me?
How sick, what a lame excuse to make me into an ex-con.
Not good enough.
You see, the membership of that particular gang [You are referring to the Hell's Angels right? Scared to say it are you?] were very trigger happy when someone mentioned Sonny Barger, their leader, went to prison.LOL oh yeah they may come after you now! Geeze...
At least no one assaulted me and draw a gun on me me for mentioning Sonny went to prison so I That is something to be grateful for.
Oh gosh, what a sentence! You are nervous huh?
Yes that particular motorcycle gang was vicious and violent.
lol @ that particular...
I see you are redeeming yourself a bit by saying that they (that "particular" club was [read "were" for grammar's sake]) in the past violent and vicious.
Very good, maybe you know they bought hundreds of bicycles (and other toys) for poor kids last month.
They are called Protestants and some of those truths are what they are protesting....but, as usual, they are wrong.
Everyone knows that God inspired, transmitted and preserved His word, the Bible............guess how He did it?????
YOU ARE RIGHT, He used the Catholic Church as His means of doing all that.....There was no one else on Earth for the first 1,600 years of Christianity other than the Catholic Church who could or would have done that....why is that so hard for non-Catholics to admit????? That's the way it was....how else???
I agree. However, let's not lose sight of an important word Paul inserted in that passage: usurp. He said a woman was not to "usurp authority over a man". That word only occurs ONCE in all of Scripture. The Greek transliteration of that word is authenteÅ and means:
I. one who with his own hands kills another or himself
II. one who acts on his own authority, autocratic
III. an absolute master
IV. to govern, exercise dominion over one
What is prohibited here is a woman, on her own authority, being a master of authority over a man, instead of a woman being in submission to male leaders and, of course, her husband.
BUT...what about the case where a woman is NOT usurping a man's authority but is teaching men by their own invitation? Do churches have guest women teachers? Would it be wrong if the men have given their permission for a woman to teach them? I don't think in this case it would. That I think is the gist of Paul's warning to Timothy.
What I do not like, is to be called a Protestant. I am not out protesting anything. Again, I think it can interpreted differently, mostly according to one’s religious persuasion. Dare I bring it up again? Cult speak. If someone asks me what “religion” I belong to, I simply say I am a born again Christian, I do not say I am a Protestant. Wherever I attend worship services, however, is not relevant, because, as I think you are saying, people will try to pigeonhole and stereotype us into what they think we are. On the other hand, if people want to stereotype me into a born again Christian, then I am game.
A few thoughts:
Since Roman Catholics don't adhere to sola Scriptura does this mean you don't have to obey Paul's instructions?
You noted at the start of your reply that Paul left, "written evidence that women were to keep silence in the churches. They were commanded to be under obedience as also said the law. It was a shame for women to speak in the church". By what right are you asserting that this applies to anonymous Internet forums on religious topics? Did Paul mean "in church" or didn't he?
You initially brought this out as a challenge for me to stop trying to "teach" you something if I really held to Scripture as the ultimate authority (sola Scriptura), yet you devised your own personal interpretation of that Scripture to mean I and other non-Catholic women here should cease posting to you as we were not "allowed" by the Apostle Paul. As you can see from the responses of Mrs. Don-O (a fellow Catholic) you are incorrect in that view. This isn't church. That NO Christian man (non-Catholic or Catholic) backed you up in your silly masochistic tactic should be a learning experience for you here at Free Republic. We can ALL learn from each other and gender should be a non-issue. Respect is a two-way street.
Guess what? You were using hermeneutics while you condemned hermeneutics!
When someone asks me what religion I am, I answer Christian. When they want to know what my church is I reply Evangelical. The truth is that I can go to any church that teaches the true gospel and feel welcomed. Our spirits bear witness with their spirits that we are the children of God. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. (Rom. 8:14)
No one has to show you any credentials to post scriptures or any specific comments, opinions, wisdom or knowledge that they have gained.
It’s time for you to quit badgering the women posters that don’t belong to your belief system.
Discuss the issues all you want, but be aware of the rules of the Religion Forum which you can find by clicking on my name at the bottom of this post.
Roger that. (a little air traffic control lingo there, being as I used to be one)
:-)
“YOU ARE RIGHT, He used the Catholic Church as His means of doing all that.....There was no one else on Earth for the first 1,600 years of Christianity other than the Catholic Church”
Sorry. The early church was there before Catholicism arose.
Well...
If one considers NO one to be their superior...
Your posts certainly convinced me that you know so much. Unfortunately, most of it if bogus. Still, God is always ready to open eyes and hearts in his time.
I wish you salvation and a good year in 2015.
You say THIS a lot!
What good would the seven do if the simple "Who are the dead in Christ?" can't be answered?
There you go again!
How do you know what ANNA did?
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