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Infallible Does Not Mean Sinless
Catholic Stand ^ | November 11, 2014 | Infallible Does Not Mean Sinless Leila Miller

Posted on 11/11/2014 11:35:48 AM PST by NYer

A quick reminder that infallible does not mean sinless. Here are some quick facts about the papacy:

1) All of the 266 popes have sinned, including the first pope, St. Peter, who committed among the worst of sins: He denied Our Lord three times during the Passion.

2) While all of the popes have been sinners, it’s also true that many of the popes have practiced heroic virtue, rising to the heights of great sanctity. The first popes (and several subsequent popes) died as martyrs for the faith, and many popes have been canonized or beatified. Saintly popes are common.

3) Though most popes were good and holy men, there were a handful of popes who were bad, wicked and/or corrupt. A recounting of their personal sin would make your hair curl! It is entirely possible that there are popes in hell.

4) Whether saintly or evil, no pope has ever taught heresy (i.e., no pope has ever taught error as Truth). The Holy Spirit guides the Church and protects her so that the faithful will never be led into doctrinal error — no matter who sits in the Chair of Peter.

5) If you wonder how someone can speak truth while not living it, think of a math professor teaching his students perfectly correct formulas and concepts, while he himself cheats on his taxes and cannot seem to keep a balanced checkbook. Or think of a chronic adulterer who preaches that adultery is wrong. His actions are evil, but what he says is perfectly true.

There you have it. Infallibility does not mean impeccability. Just as God protected sinful men from teaching doctrinal error when writing the Bible, He also protected sinful Peter and his sinful successors from teaching doctrinal error while leading His Church.

Thanks be to God.


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1 posted on 11/11/2014 11:35:48 AM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/11/2014 11:36:10 AM PST by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

Well, #4 is clearly incorrect.


3 posted on 11/11/2014 11:38:03 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: NYer

Remember having to memorize all the Popes in order? Happy days!


4 posted on 11/11/2014 11:39:49 AM PST by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: ShadowAce

You are wrong.


5 posted on 11/11/2014 11:40:09 AM PST by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: NYer

Who was the second and third “pope” after Peter?


6 posted on 11/11/2014 11:40:46 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: ShadowAce

Well, #4 is clearly incorrect.


Would have to search for the history, but weren’t there rival Popes that declared each other heretics?


7 posted on 11/11/2014 11:40:54 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: verga
Ahh. So I'm guessing that the selling of indulgences is clearly biblical?

What about praying to people rather than our Lord, in violation of Jesus' explicit teaching?

8 posted on 11/11/2014 11:41:56 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

yup. Rome and the Holy Roman Empire period.


9 posted on 11/11/2014 11:43:42 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: NYer

Looking at the popes through the centuries, infallible often doesn’t mean good or wise either.


10 posted on 11/11/2014 11:44:34 AM PST by lurk
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To: fwdude

Pope Linus and Pope Cletus. I dared my sister to name her twins that. :)


11 posted on 11/11/2014 11:47:10 AM PST by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: NYer
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil" - Isaiah 5:20
12 posted on 11/11/2014 11:48:35 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: NYer

No man should ever have that much power. Sorry Catholics, I love you like brothers and sisters.
Through Christ alone.


13 posted on 11/11/2014 11:48:40 AM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: verga; ShadowAce
You are wrong.

No you are wrong and your tagline is wrong, verga.

14 posted on 11/11/2014 11:48:45 AM PST by BipolarBob (You anger Catholics by telling them the truth, you anger Protestants when you lie to them.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/1990/issue28/2824.html?start=2

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/640848/Western-Schism

Yep, 3 rival Popes. Interesting.


15 posted on 11/11/2014 11:52:22 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: fwdude
In the very front of St. Peter's Basilica there is a list of the Popes, really and truly ENGRAVED IN GRANITE.

St. Peter (32-67)
St. Linus (67-76)
St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88)
St. Clement I (88-97)
St. Evaristus (97-105)
St. Alexander I (105-115)
St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I
St. Telesphorus (125-136)
St. Hyginus (136-140)
St. Pius I (140-155)

16 posted on 11/11/2014 11:52:33 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

St. Anicetus (155-166)
St. Soter (166-175)
St. Eleutherius (175-189)
St. Victor I (189-199)
St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
St. Callistus I (217-22) Callistus and the following three popes were opposed by St. Hippolytus, antipope (217-236)
St. Urban I (222-30)
St. Pontain (230-35)
St. Anterus (235-36)
St. Fabian (236-50)


17 posted on 11/11/2014 11:55:02 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

St. Cornelius (251-53) Opposed by Novatian, antipope (251)
St. Lucius I (253-54)
St. Stephen I (254-257)
St. Sixtus II (257-258)
St. Dionysius (260-268)
St. Felix I (269-274)
St. Eutychian (275-283)
St. Caius (283-296) Also called Gaius
St. Marcellinus (296-304)
St. Marcellus I (308-309)


18 posted on 11/11/2014 11:56:23 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

St. Eusebius (309 or 310)
St. Miltiades (311-14)
St. Sylvester I (314-35)
St. Marcus (336)
St. Julius I (337-52)
Liberius (352-66) Opposed by Felix II, antipope (355-365)
St. Damasus I (366-84) Opposed by Ursicinus, antipope (366-367)
St. Siricius (384-99)
St. Anastasius I (399-401)
St. Innocent I (401-17)


19 posted on 11/11/2014 11:57:13 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

St. Zosimus (417-18)
St. Boniface I (418-22) Opposed by Eulalius, antipope (418-419)
St. Celestine I (422-32)
St. Sixtus III (432-40)
St. Leo I (the Great) (440-61)
St. Hilarius (461-68)
St. Simplicius (468-83)
St. Felix III (II) (483-92)
St. Gelasius I (492-96)
50. Anastasius II (496-98)


20 posted on 11/11/2014 11:57:43 AM PST by cloudmountain
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