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To: metmom

“If they’re not born again and don’t have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them to give them spiritual understanding, yeah, you can be buried in a mountain of writings of church fathers and all their opinion pieces on Scripture are meaningless.”

No need for born again!

“He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.”

If you don’t believe in the Holy Eucharist and celebrate the Supreme Sacrifice of the Mass, all else is useless.

Go learn the lives of saints and martyrs and spend some time in serious study on why eminent Protestant theologians who spent their life times studying scripture, writing books, teaching, and preaching, converted to Catholicism.

Apparently, all these folks including the saints Augustine, Aquinas, Newman were all blind the light of the candle! But somehow David Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, Billy Graham, Rev. Wright, Rev. Rick Warren have all seen the light of this candle. They are all united by the denial of this central truth of the Eucharist. What now do they same about birds of the same feather…”?


113 posted on 11/10/2014 7:26:53 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
No need for born again!

That's not what Jesus said and I'll take HIS word about it over the Catholic church's.

John 3:3-8 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?”

Jesus answered,“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

138 posted on 11/11/2014 12:38:59 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Steelfish

>>No need for born again!

“He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.”

If you don’t believe in the Holy Eucharist and celebrate the Supreme Sacrifice of the Mass, all else is useless.<<

Talk about plucking verses. Have you cut off your hand or plucked out your eye yet?


163 posted on 11/11/2014 12:36:13 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Steelfish
No need for born again!

Why don't you ask some of those "eminent Protestant theologians who spent their life times studying scripture, writing books, teaching, and preaching, converted to Catholicism" if that is a true statement?

HINT: it is NOT a true statement and exposes an accursed gospel of those who claim it is.

If you don’t believe in the Holy Eucharist and celebrate the Supreme Sacrifice of the Mass, all else is useless.

Not according to your OWN Catechism. Though it dubiously claims "Protestant" don't experience the "fullness of the faith", they nonetheless:

    838 “The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter.”322 Those “who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.”

Should you be considered a schismatic who denies his own catechism?

171 posted on 11/11/2014 2:30:42 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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