Posted on 09/27/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by Gamecock
With the same type of corruption's, twists, and additions as the Catholic Church yes they do.
.....”HIS body was standing there before them; that is why they KNEW His words were symbolic.”.........
Yes,exactly....and Jesus knew it quite well himself!
Besides...if you break the wafer it crumbles, not bleeds..... The wine is still wine if you put it under a microscope. ....How can it be Jesus if it’s bread and wine?
...and saying the Priest calls Jesus down...means he better be sinless himself.....though I understand it wouldn’t matter how sinful a Priest might be he still gets the “power” to call Jesus down...that’s just so absurd!
And ate His own body and drank His own blood.
I never get an answer to that. Maybe they are waiting for the magisterium.
St. Paul
....”Paul is commending the Bereans for checking with scripture to see if even what the apostles were teaching was true....... They weren’t commended for relying on some “magesterium”..... ****They were commended for checking that “ magesterium” against scripture*****....... It was scripture that was supreme.
..... Jesus did the same thing.... Check how many times He said “it is written”. ...Jesus appealed to what had been written. ...The “ magesterium” of that day would have been considered the Pharisees..... What did Jesus have to say about them? .....It is obvious from the apostles and Jesus that... “it is written” supercedes any so called “magesterium”.......
Excellent! Thank you again......
Everything you are whining about has been said by the other side at some time. The truth is nobody is "protected" when they flaunt the rules - and that happens much more from the pro-Catholic side than the non. Anytime you believe someone is being dishonest, you have the freedom to expose it. Unreason and malice...those are in the eye of the beholder, are they not? Here's a suggestion...why don't you stay OFF the open Religion Forum threads for a while seeing as you get so worked up and all? The RM warns all the time about how a thick skin is required to participate. Why don't you take some time to do some thickening? You'll probably feel better.You don't see condescension [and bossiness] in this post? [There are many posts — I call them toners to myself — like this from boatbums.] Or you don't think anyone should mention it if they do?
Emphasis; mine
Ah ha! The old LIV thing!
No, the faith that is founded upon the ROCK - which is Jesus Christ. That is what is Biblical.
....”Jesus saves through the Sacraments”.....
The Bible clearly says otherwise Salvation:
“For ...”by Grace”... you have been saved.... “through faith” ..... (Eph. 2)
“Therefore having been... “justified by faith”,.... we have peace with God ...”through our Lord Jesus Christ,”...... (Rom. 5:1)
“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “
You see "condescension" and "bossiness"? Unless you are able to read my mind, you cannot possibly know the attitude behind my comment. Like I said, it was a "SUGGESTION". I would prefer that people unable to tolerate open debates about their religion refrain from coming here since they seem only to cause flame wars and disrupt the progress of the discussion. Their "feelings" get hurt and they strike out at those they see as "bashing" them personally when most of the time it isn't at all personal and the personal is avoided. The Mods have enough to do as it is. Shouldn't we be able to police ourselves? We aren't children.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Wow! Protestants get jipped. Catholics get both cut and past.
“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “
I’m telling ya man. That unicycle thing is just exploitation of bears.
......” taught by the Spirit,.... interpreting spiritual truths ....TO those who are spiritual”.....
You cannot understand scriptures or the truth apart from God’s spirit enabling you.....it is His work...not ours.
Jesus said.....“When the Helper comes,.... whom ‘I’ will send to you from the Father, ....that is ‘the Spirit of truth’ ....who proceeds from the Father,.... He will testify about ME.”....John 15:26...........”But a natural man does not ‘accept’ the things of the Spirit of God,... for they are foolishness to him;... and ‘he cannot understand’ them, because they are spiritually discerned”.....I Cor:2:14
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