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Atheist Group Forces Diner to Stop Offering Discount for Praying
http://www.breitbart.com ^ | August 10, 2014 | William Bigalow

Posted on 08/10/2014 6:27:12 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Truthfully, it was not cowardice, but lawyers. Were they taken to court, it would have cost them thousands of dollars, win or lose, with a good chance they would have lost.

A better alternative in the future would be to reach an agreement with several local churches to have the entire restaurant reserved for a few hours one night a week for a “club” meeting of those churches congregants and clergy. Including prayers before and after the dinner, and maybe even a religious speaker. With a discount for the dinners served to the club.

They would only offer “club” nights once a week, and would book just that club for years in advance, so the atheists couldn’t book a club night.

In this way, though the atheists won the battle, they would lose the war.


21 posted on 08/10/2014 6:54:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: NKP_Vet

I wonder where major league pitchers who say a prayer on the mound each inning get their discounts.


22 posted on 08/10/2014 6:56:14 PM PDT by Misterioso (Obama is our first postmodern president. Philosophy is dead.)
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To: Dogbert41
Well, I am kind of thinking that a prayer could grant a donation to your favorite charity. The discount then could be tax deductible as a charitable contribution.
23 posted on 08/10/2014 6:57:49 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: NKP_Vet

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is a hate group and NO ONE should ever cave in to them.


24 posted on 08/10/2014 6:59:07 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American.ad Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Absolute truth.


25 posted on 08/10/2014 7:00:26 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Forces???


26 posted on 08/10/2014 7:03:03 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: NKP_Vet

I dare and double dare the FFRP to walk into a Muslim butcher and tell him he can’t pray over halal meat preparation.

I triple dare them to walk into any mosque and tell muslims they can’t pray in public at work, and especially with prayer rugs.


27 posted on 08/10/2014 7:04:02 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Or let them try and tell a Jewish meat market they can’t sell kosher chicken and see how far that gets them.


28 posted on 08/10/2014 7:08:27 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Truthfully, it was not cowardice, but lawyers.

Thank you for saying that. I'm sure as restaurant owners they don't make a fortune and cannot fight these assholes in court.

I just hope everyone goes into their restaurant and prays discount or not. My son and his family always pray at restaurants before eating. Wonder when they will get kicked out for praying before a meal? It will happen some day.

29 posted on 08/10/2014 7:15:17 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: DoodleDawg

The senior discount was my first thought as well. There is nothing intrinsically discriminatory about requiring a prerequisite in order to qualify for a discount. I bet the restauranteur would have accepted one of the FFRF’s making a prayer to Gaia...or to nothing ;’)


30 posted on 08/10/2014 7:33:46 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: txrefugee

There was no witness involved—the ownership they just wanted to establish a place where people could pray if they wished.


31 posted on 08/10/2014 7:52:22 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

No it’s not. The future of atheism is conversion to the truth that there is a God that loves them.


32 posted on 08/10/2014 8:12:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

I agree that the FFRP is worse than any terrorist group, and the sooner its members rot in hell the better.

But what is this crap about paying some one to pray?
Or praying because some one is paying for it?

How would the ones who is paying for it know that they were getting their moneys worth?

If we pray like Jesus told us to no one is even going to be aware we are praying except us and God.

Of course it is obvious just by sitting in a café that most people do not pay any attention of how Jesus told us not to make a big to do when praying but to do it in secret.

And the people who are praying for the discount and those who are paying are just as bad as the FFRP.


33 posted on 08/10/2014 8:13:55 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: ravenwolf

Correction, I don`t mean they are bad in the evil sense but maybe just niave.


34 posted on 08/10/2014 9:12:41 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: NKP_Vet
I despise cowards and this restaurant owner is a coward.

I do, too. Caving in to these bullies only encourages more bullying.

35 posted on 08/10/2014 9:16:00 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: lastchance
Did the owners offer the discount only to Christians?

No, only to people over 65. Isn't that discrimination against those who are younger?

36 posted on 08/11/2014 3:39:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rockrr
The senior discount was my first thought as well. There is nothing intrinsically discriminatory about requiring a prerequisite in order to qualify for a discount. I bet the restauranteur would have accepted one of the FFRF’s making a prayer to Gaia...or to nothing ;’)

This isn't a government organization. They can offer discounts to any group they like.

37 posted on 08/11/2014 3:41:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RightInJersey

Could it be that C: Maybe was threatened by PHYSICAL violence as well? It would not surprise me if that could have been a factor.


38 posted on 08/11/2014 5:30:06 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NKP_Vet

Why do you need a discount to pray? It’s Biblical, puts one in mind of the Pharisees show offs. Praying is free no discount is needed.

I can enter any eatery and humbly pray over my food. I don’t need to make a show piece of doing so. Or need a discount to do it. I do it because I love my GOD.

Rather give a discount to Seniors, Military and Retired Military.

It is nice they wanted to do so, but it was not a necessity to a true Christian.


39 posted on 08/11/2014 6:10:41 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: ozarkgirl

One of the major problems is that congress changed the law so that lawsuits about “religious discrimination” can recover the lawyers fees separately from the judgment.

This quickly became the “federal funding to support the ACLU” law, because the ACLU then extorted school districts around the US by threatening to sue them over even slight infractions, which would mean small judgments but gigantic lawyers fees. In most cases they agreed to settle for ‘just’ half of what they might have won. ‘Half’ of exorbitant is still obscene.

It also caused atheist organizations to get a hundred times the funding they had before, if they could hunt up any real or imagined slight and sue.

So religions and religious people truly need to lobby to get this change in the law stopped.


40 posted on 08/11/2014 6:49:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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