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To: Kevmo; DouglasKC; All

Don’t take Douglas too seriously when he implies that there is something “false” in what has been explained of UCG theology. What he really means is that he does not like the way it was told you, and he’d rather you go through the UCG setup where they slowly talk you into the heresy, one step at a cultic time. From the UCG website:

“...the one God is a family, presently consisting of God the Father and God the Son, Jesus Christ. And God is in the process of adding to the divine family multitudes of others - eventually all human beings who are willing and who faithfully choose to follow God’s way...the Father and Jesus Christ are both God...The real message in these pronouncements is that there is no other God apart from the true God’that is, outside the God family now consisting of two divine Beings, the Father and the Son. In short, the God family alone is God...the true God means the one God family to which others will yet be added.”

From http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/do-some-verses-deny-divine-family/

You’ll notice, if you read the entire article, that they use a lot of Christian terminology, and even sound like they’re defending monotheism. But, when they mention “Trinitarians,” they tip their hand even for the most casual of observers:

“Trinitarians would argue that this is because the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one triune being. But the true explanation is that the one God is the one God ‘family.’” (From same link as above)

The UCG on the Holy Spirit:

“...the Holy Spirit is the very nature, presence and expression of God’s power actively working in His servants...the very essence and life force through which the Father begets human beings as His spiritual children...The Holy Spirit is spoken of in many ways that demonstrate that it is not a divine person.”

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/holy-spirit-person/

You can find a summary of UCG’s beliefs, as well as footnotes STRAIGHT from the UCG’s website, from the helpful folks at CARM:

http://carm.org/ucog

So when Douglas claims you’re going to find something ‘different’ from what I have provided on the UCG website, he’s bluffing, hoping you don’t actually check, and confuse him for a Trinitarian Christian.


301 posted on 01/02/2014 7:24:16 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So when Douglas claims you’re going to find something ‘different’ from what I have provided on the UCG website, he’s bluffing, hoping you don’t actually check, and confuse him for a Trinitarian Christian.
***Thanks for the heads up. It would appear to be the same damnable anti-trinitarian heresy in action.


310 posted on 01/02/2014 7:28:34 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; DouglasKC

In short, the God family alone is God...the true God means the one God family to which others will yet be added.”
***Polytheism. Heresy. What do you have to say, DouglasKC? Does not Christ properly condemn heretics of His day as ‘sons of satan’, and so do I in following Him?


339 posted on 01/02/2014 7:48:46 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Sounds like a big, steaming pile. Thanks again for the heads up.


345 posted on 01/02/2014 8:03:21 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
....”they use a lot of Christian terminology”....

As with most false religions and cults...otherwise they would not get an audience to hear their dribble. Christian terminology is always the "Hook" the enemy of men's souls uses to deceive and entrap people, especially those who have limited familiarity with scripture and those new to the faith...... The words have generally been heard along the way but not yet personal or understood. So as soon as an individual is "ready" to understand you can be certain the enemy will be waiting to bounce!/p>

415 posted on 01/03/2014 9:47:10 AM PST by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So when Douglas claims you’re going to find something ‘different’ from what I have provided on the UCG website, he’s bluffing, hoping you don’t actually check, and confuse him for a Trinitarian Christian.
***It’s a tricky feat. From their website, they skirt around the issue like an ice skater doing a magic trick.

http://www.ucg.org/fundamental-beliefs-info/

God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit

We believe in one God, the Father, eternally existing, who is a Spirit, a personal Being of supreme intelligence, knowledge, love, justice, power and authority. He, through Jesus Christ, is the Creator of the heavens and the earth and all that is in them. He is the Source of life and the One for whom human life exists. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, who is the Word and has eternally existed. We believe that He is the Messiah, the Christ, the divine Son of the living God, conceived of the Holy Spirit, born in the human flesh of the virgin Mary. We believe that it is by Him that God created all things and that without Him was not anything made that was made. We believe in the Holy Spirit, as the Spirit of God and of Christ Jesus. The Holy Spirit is the power of God and the Spirit of life eternal (2 Timothy 1:7
; Ephesians 4:6
; 1 Corinthians 8:6
; John 1:1-4
; Colossians 1:16
).


531 posted on 01/07/2014 4:27:34 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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