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To: jimmyray; CynicalBear

Frankly the “he” has generated much debate. Since this is the only portion of scriptures addressing the subject I consider no doctrine can be derived from it. We can state theories all day but cannot be 100% certain. I am a futurist with regards to Revelation and unfulfilled OT prophecy. I also see a pre-trib translation of the church, fully understanding fellow brothers and sisters in Christ may disagree. That’s fine and I expect this based on disagreements on Israel future, and what wrath is defined by Paul and in Revelation 3. Good Christians can and will debate these things because there is some mystery.

We SHOULD all agree on what Jesus Christ and the apostles DID tell us clearly...watch be ready, be sober, continue our Airborne mission of the Great Commission. IMHO everything else is in God’s Hands. If the amil and post trib rapture brothers and sisters are right then hopefully we pretrib types stocked up on some ammo:) If the pre trib crowd is right then everyone will have a pleasant and blessed surprise. Watch and be ready is our current mission and preach the Gospel.

I will admit and be honest that CB and I agree on much when it comes to eschatology. We do differ on a few things and probably the biggest one is a subject of the previous post. I believe the Gospel preached during the trib is the same one we preach today-—Grace. To be more precise the same Gospel Jesus Christ commanded in Luke 24.

Eschatology is great to study but it should never be a source of division among the Church. I think we all agree Christ will come AGAIN physically and visibly. Amil, pre-trib, post trib and even partial prederists.


309 posted on 12/26/2013 5:50:41 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter; jimmyray
>>We do differ on a few things and probably the biggest one is a subject of the previous post.<<

I don’t think we disagree on that at all. Israel will be going back to the old temple sacrifice but that is not what is going to save them. Keep in mind that the Nation of Israel is still an apostate nation and will be until the end other than the “elect” 12,000 from each tribe who have accepted Christ as savior. Don’t confuse the remnant believers with the NATION of Israel as a whole.

There will also be those who become believers after the rapture who are referred to as tribulation saints but they will be killed for their belief.

I hope that clarifies my point a little.

310 posted on 12/26/2013 6:15:20 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: redleghunter
>> “ I believe the Gospel preached during the trib is the same one we preach today-—Grace. To be more precise the same Gospel Jesus Christ commanded in Luke 24.” <<


This one?

Luke 24:

[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
[45] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.

314 posted on 12/26/2013 7:19:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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