“But Catholics say the man does some of it?”
Does God save men against their will?
“But Catholics insist that it is something we do and something we do that can get us unsaved?”
What is the penalty of sin?
“But Catholics say its really not really eternal?”
Really? Show me where that is said by Catholics?
“And Catholics surely must not believe this one.”
We do. And we also understand it. Wish I could say the same for some Protestants around here.
“Catholics keep telling us that lots of things can separated us telling the Holy Spirit who inspired those words that He got it wrong somehow.”
No, that’s not what any Catholic has ever said about the Holy Spirit, but you’ll probably keep saying it as if it were true. You won’t post any evidence for your claim either of course. Par for the course.
Do you ever read and study scripture?
Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
The natural will of man is sinful and does not seek after God. God is the one who initiates that call and opens the eyes and ears to accept. So in that regard, yes, God saves men against their natural will. Oh, and by the way, I dont expect you to understand that.
>>What is the penalty of sin?<<
Only those who have not accepted Jesus alone as their savior and Lord and as the only mediator between God and man should worry about that. God says we are not under that penalty.
Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for usfor it is written, Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree
Jesus paid the price for us and we are hidden in His righteousness.
>>Really? Show me where that is said by Catholics?<<
God says.
John 3:15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
So once we believe we have eternal life with Him. But Catholics say no, that man can loose that somehow so it must not be eternal for whosoever believes in Him. Like I said, Catholics believe its not eternal but temporary depending on what man does.
>>No, thats not what any Catholic has ever said about the Holy Spirit,<<
Catholics never say that man can separate themselves from the Holy Spirit? Really? So tell me, how does on lose their salvation if they don't seperate themselves from the Holy Spirit?