[daniel1212]

First, Joel Osteen is criticized by those whom Rome loses the most members by, that of evangelical churches, while the idea that their lack of knowledge of the "Eucharist" is the problem is absurd .

The reality is that they were taught this, but as is abundantly evidenced weekly, receiving it does not result in the manifest change correspondent to the claims made for it.

And most who leave Catholicism for evangelical churches do so due to the spiritual deficiency of Rome, and what she effectually teaches and fosters is liberalism, in contrast to the evangelical churches so-called "conservative" Rome treats as her enemy, nor her own liberal members whom she counts and treats as such in life and in death. For the preeminence of Rome is the real priority.

[SoothingDave]

The reality is that they were taught this, but as is abundantly evidenced weekly, receiving it does not result in the manifest change correspondent to the claims made for it.

Notwithstanding the idea that you are the judge of the spiritual development of others, consider that even the Bible says that those who receive the Sacrament unworthily eat and drink damnation upon themselves.

[SoothingDave]

In other words, it is not a magic elixir, as you seem to think it is. Its effectiveness depends on the spiritual state of the recipient.

[Elsie]

For the preeminence of Rome is the real priority.

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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'