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How Many Miracles are Required to Canonize a Saint?
Canon Law Made Easy ^ | July 18, 2013 | Cathy Caridi, J.C.L.

Posted on 07/18/2013 8:29:53 PM PDT by Weiss White

Q: How many miracles are required before somebody can be canonized a saint? I thought that you needed three. But now the Pope has announced that John Paul II will be canonized after only two miracles, and John XXIII with (I believe) even less than that. Did the rules get changed at some point? Is this even a canon-law question? –Sylvie

A: Sylvie is of course referring to the Vatican’s July 5 announcement that a miracle has been attributed to the intercession of Blessed John Paul II, clearing the way for his canonization. The same decree also indicates that Pope Francis has approved a decision made at the Vatican’s Congregation for Causes of Saints, regarding the canonization of Blessed John XXIII—although no miracle has been attributed to him. What’s going on here?

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1 posted on 07/18/2013 8:29:53 PM PDT by Weiss White
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To: Weiss White

42


2 posted on 07/18/2013 8:30:45 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Weiss White
Where did you get the "three" idea? Maybe the three pronouncement steps? Venerable, Blessed, Saint?

Saints [Catholic, Orthodox, Open]
SAINTHOOD 101: Rules for Becoming a Saint [Catholic Caucus]
The Process of Becoming a Saint (Canonization) [Catholic Caucus]
Pope Lists Criteria for Causes of Canonization

3 posted on 07/18/2013 8:37:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Weiss White

Zero - nor is “canonization” necessary.


4 posted on 07/18/2013 8:39:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Please read the links above for history of the canonization process in the Catholic Church.


5 posted on 07/18/2013 8:40:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I'm assuming you found that regulation right next to the other ones in the Hebrew Scriptures explicitly listing the rules and processes by which men can exalt other men into a super-status of "saint".

Let me pull out my Torah/Tanakh and I'll confirm & cross reference those 101 Sainthood rules with the Word of G-d........in 3.....2.......1.......

......wait I'm still looking.....

While you're waiting I looked up the hebrew root word for "saint" (did the research years ago) and the catholic/christian word "saint" comes from the Hebrew Scriptures in the form of Qodesh or Qodeshim. The literal translation is Set-Apart in or those whom are Set-Apart. The usage of the word in the Hebrew Scriptures and within the Gospels denotes anybody who has cleaved themselves to G-d's Covenant, and lives according to the written Word of G-d. Nowhere is Qodesh or Qodeshim used to denote a higher office within a hierarchy of a religious ruling class.

Anybody who cleaves themselves to the Covenant with G-d, and lives the whole written Word of G-d, just like Jesus did, is Qodesh Set-Apart in G-d.

Well, I gave up trying to cross reference the 101 rules of sainthood with the Hebrew Scriptures because they can't be cross referenced anywhere in Torah/Tanakh or in the teachings of Jesus.
6 posted on 07/18/2013 8:56:23 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: brent13a

Don’t panic.


7 posted on 07/18/2013 9:08:05 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Weiss White

Who canonized the saints at Ephesus, to whom the Apostle Paul penned a letter?


8 posted on 07/18/2013 9:28:52 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Weiss White

The only miracle required for one to become a saint is for one to accept Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection. A saint is simply a believer in Christ according to New Testament reading. There is no process by which a church or group of people must vote on to make a person a saint.


9 posted on 07/18/2013 9:36:35 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: Weiss White

The first of the two miracles, the supposed healing of the French nun of Parkinson’s, is, how does one say it, reverting? Here is a clip from the Guardian:

“But according to the Polish daily newspaper Rzeczpospolita, one of the doctors charged with scrutinising the nun’s case believed she might have been suffering from a similar nervous disease, not Parkinson’s, which could go into sudden remission. A report on the paper’s website went further, saying that the 49-year-old nun had become sick again with the same illness.”

If a miracle does not hold, does it count?


10 posted on 07/18/2013 9:59:01 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: Weiss White

According to the New Testament all Christians are Saints.


11 posted on 07/18/2013 10:24:20 PM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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What about the Christians who are living in sin? Pornography, Addiction, Adultery?

I don’t think your premise holds true. What do you think?

How can a Christian living in sin be a saint? Even with a small “s”??

And definitely not with a capital “S”


12 posted on 07/18/2013 10:27:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mlo

Your wrong. 42 is the meaning of life. You obviously don ‘t know where your towel is at. Go read some Vogon poetry. ;)


13 posted on 07/18/2013 10:31:13 PM PDT by deputytess (Men of the West .....stand and FIGHT!)
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To: Weiss White

Three, plus Smokey Robinson.


14 posted on 07/18/2013 11:17:20 PM PDT by married21
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To: brent13a

It was a joke. You don’t know it’s the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

:o)


15 posted on 07/19/2013 1:04:02 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Ecliptic

Little “s” in this life, the big “S” in the next.


16 posted on 07/19/2013 3:22:11 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation

Got to remember that we are dealing with the “sola scripture” only folks.


17 posted on 07/19/2013 3:26:20 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation

“Please read the links above for history of the canonization process in the Catholic Church.”

Salvation,

Please see Bible for God’s process for sainthood.
Catholic process invalidates God’s process, by transforming it from dependence upon Christ’s work at the cross into a system of human works.

To create a different process other than the one God declares freely is to minimize the death and resurrection of Christ.

I will continue to prefer God’s declaration that every believer in Christ is now a saint - here on earth or departed to be in the presence of God.


18 posted on 07/19/2013 5:06:34 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus)
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To: Biggirl

“Little “s” in this life, the big “S” in the next.”

And yet, God declares no such false division between saints.


19 posted on 07/19/2013 5:07:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

To correct you, it is the reality in this life.


20 posted on 07/19/2013 5:11:39 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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